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From https://daringfireball.net/2025/04/gonzales_rogers_apple_app_store_ruling https://daringfireball.net/2025/04/gonzales_rogers_apple_app... > Keep in mind t

From https://daringfireball.net/2025/04/gonzales_rogers_apple_app_store_ruling https://daringfireball.net/2025/04/gonzales_rogers_apple_app... > Keep in mind this whole thing stems from an injunction from a lawsuit filed by Epic Games that Apple largely won. The result of that lawsuit was basically, “OK, Apple wins, Epic loses, but this whole thing where apps in the App Store aren’t allowed to inform users of offers available outside the App Store, or send them to such offers on the web (outside the app) via easily tappable links, is bullshit and needs to stop. If the App Store is not anticompetitive it should be able to compete with links to the web and offers from outside the App Store.” And there's a subsequent post elaborating on this point: https://daringfireball.net/linked/2025/05/01/apple-lost-but-did-epic-win https://daringfireball.net/linked/2025/05/01/apple-lost-but-...

rideontime 1y ago
I don't buy into the analogy. Cable providers can't prevent you from watching free OTA channels on your television, but Apple prevents Epic from publishing iOS apps outside of the App Store. Considering Fortnite was removed from the App Store specifically due to offering outside payment options, denying its return will likely lead straight back to court.
- yndoendo 1y ago
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- KerrAvon 1y ago
  IANAL, but that's not true. Fortnite was removed due to breach of contract.
  - Osiris 1y ago
    The breach being that they offered a payment method outside of Apple Pay. That's exactly what he said.
    - wtallis 1y ago
      It's not exactly what he said. The fact the they agreed to a contract prohibiting them from using an outside payment method and then willfully violated that contract is a detail that courts may not be so willing to overlook.
      - rideontime 1y ago
        Even though the court found that particular provision to be illegal?
        wtallis 1y ago
        Contract law allows you to sign away many rights you would otherwise retain. I'm not sure that a contract provision being found illegal under antitrust law has the effect of it being retroactively considered unconscionable or excuses agreeing to the contract in bad faith.

rideontime 1y ago

I don't buy into the analogy. Cable providers can't prevent you from watching free OTA channels on your television, but Apple prevents Epic from publishing iOS apps outside of the App Store. Considering Fortnite was removed from the App Store specifically due to offering outside payment options, denying its return will likely lead straight back to court.

yndoendo 1y ago
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KerrAvon 1y ago
IANAL, but that's not true. Fortnite was removed due to breach of contract.
- Osiris 1y ago
  The breach being that they offered a payment method outside of Apple Pay. That's exactly what he said.
  - wtallis 1y ago
    It's not exactly what he said. The fact the they agreed to a contract prohibiting them from using an outside payment method and then willfully violated that contract is a detail that courts may not be so willing to overlook.
    - rideontime 1y ago
      Even though the court found that particular provision to be illegal?
      - wtallis 1y ago
        Contract law allows you to sign away many rights you would otherwise retain. I'm not sure that a contract provision being found illegal under antitrust law has the effect of it being retroactively considered unconscionable or excuses agreeing to the contract in bad faith.