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Same has been speculated about Trump. And Musk is pretty open about drug use. The "just say no" party, is pretty baked.

Symmetry 2y ago
Trump is a famous teetotaler so I'd be skeptical there. When I started getting worried about Elon around 2018 the drugs were part of it but also the persistent sleep deprivation. But there's also the way his father went a bit crazy in his 40s which I only learned about recently.
- yapyap 2y ago
  Along with his ultra rich but antisocial upbringing and the exploitation he was exposed to from a young age with the mines, apartheid and everything I’d say there is no hope for him.
- jebarker 2y ago
  Just looked up why Trump is sober. I think this is the first time I've ever read anything about him and felt some admiration.
  - kstrauser 2y ago
    Yeah. Basically, his horrid, abusive father drove Don’s older brother, Freddie, to alcoholism. I read Mary Trump’s “Too Much and Never Enough” and it actually made me sympathetic toward Donald. That's not to say I forgive him or that he gets a free pass. But wow, I'm not sure how he could've ended up any different. The world would be better if Fred Trump Sr were emotionally capable of saying “I love you, son.”
- dowager_dan99 2y ago
  He doesn't drink alcohol or do recreational drugs, but it's surprising that he's aligned with RFK because Trump seems to love fast food and refined sugar. His terrain must look pretty rough!
  - pogue 2y ago
    He doesn't care about a person's beliefs as much as he cares about their loyalty. RFK gave up his presidential run and endorsed Trump, so he proved his worth to get him into power and is rewarded with getting to do his dream job of dismantling agencies that have kept us safe for decades. His father must be spinning like a yo-yo in his grave.
- FrustratedMonky 2y ago
  No to Alcohol, yes. Drugs, maybe. Think of stimulants as performance enhancers. https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-white-house-drugs-speed-xanax-1234979503/ https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trum...

Trump is a famous teetotaler so I'd be skeptical there. When I started getting worried about Elon around 2018 the drugs were part of it but also the persistent sleep deprivation. But there's also the way his father went a bit crazy in his 40s which I only learned about recently.

yapyap 2y ago
Along with his ultra rich but antisocial upbringing and the exploitation he was exposed to from a young age with the mines, apartheid and everything I’d say there is no hope for him.
jebarker 2y ago
Just looked up why Trump is sober. I think this is the first time I've ever read anything about him and felt some admiration.
- kstrauser 2y ago
  Yeah. Basically, his horrid, abusive father drove Don’s older brother, Freddie, to alcoholism. I read Mary Trump’s “Too Much and Never Enough” and it actually made me sympathetic toward Donald. That's not to say I forgive him or that he gets a free pass. But wow, I'm not sure how he could've ended up any different. The world would be better if Fred Trump Sr were emotionally capable of saying “I love you, son.”
dowager_dan99 2y ago
He doesn't drink alcohol or do recreational drugs, but it's surprising that he's aligned with RFK because Trump seems to love fast food and refined sugar. His terrain must look pretty rough!
- pogue 2y ago
  He doesn't care about a person's beliefs as much as he cares about their loyalty. RFK gave up his presidential run and endorsed Trump, so he proved his worth to get him into power and is rewarded with getting to do his dream job of dismantling agencies that have kept us safe for decades. His father must be spinning like a yo-yo in his grave.
FrustratedMonky 2y ago
No to Alcohol, yes. Drugs, maybe. Think of stimulants as performance enhancers. https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-white-house-drugs-speed-xanax-1234979503/ https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trum...