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Is there any reason to believe anyone will even get charged, let alone face trial, let alone convicted? And if so is there any reason to believe they won't be p

Is there any reason to believe anyone will even get charged, let alone face trial, let alone convicted? And if so is there any reason to believe they won't be pardoned upon a conviction?

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DaiPlusPlus 1y ago
> And if so is there any reason to believe they won't be pardoned upon a conviction? Given Apple's direct pushback against Trump's anti-"DEI" campaign, it's less likely than I might have thought - or maybe that's leverage? e.g. what if Trump promises to pardon Apple's executives if they remove the giant rainbow thingie from Apple Park and stop selling pride-related Apple watch straps?
- coldpie 1y ago
  You are being distracted by the culture war sideshow. No war but the class war, and Apple's execs are definitely powerful enough players in that war to protect themselves from consequences.
  - afavour 1y ago
    It's not really a culture war sideshow it's a "buying favor with the administration" sideshow. And it does matter, Trump is not exactly a man with a strong loyalty streak. Demonstrating fealty to him on a regular basis could absolutely result in preferable outcomes for Apple.
    - ujkhsjkdhf234 1y ago
      This is a state case. Referral for criminal charges goes to a district attorney in Northern California. Trump's DOJ could try to lean on California but no one in California has any taste for Trump and his people.
      - grogenaut 1y ago
        Have you been to the county of orange? San Francisco does not California make.
        ujkhsjkdhf234 1y ago
        I live in California. I know how red parts of the state are.
        DaiPlusPlus 1y ago
        Bakersfield, amirite?
        weaksauce 1y ago
        orange county is still pretty liberal just not quite as liberal as the other parts. huntington beach and newport beach is not all of orange.
        dragonwriter 1y ago
        Orange often gets cited as the example of a Republican county in California because it is the highest population county that is pretty reliably Republican (it has a slight Republican registration edge, but more solidly votes Republican because it also has a Republican-favoring balance of independent-by-registratiom voters.) But most of the Central Valley and the inland Northern California counties are much more Republican than Orange.
        dragonwriter 1y ago
        Have you been to the county of Modoc? The urban coastal enclaves do not California make. (I mean, sure, by population they mostly do, and are overwhelmingly Democratic, but if you are going to look for a county that goes against the partisan trend of the state, staying in the urban coastal enclaves and picking Orange is actually a fairly weak example.)
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  - johnnyanmac 1y ago
    >No war but the class war, You're normally right. But Trump is also a very petty narcissist. His "culture war" is pretty much "anyone who makes him feel bad". >Apple's execs are definitely powerful enough players in that war to protect themselves from consequences. That's why I hope courts do start throwing contempt around. Execs need to remember they aren't above the law to the point where they can blatantly lie to a judge.
- hedora 1y ago
  An Apple attorney is now head of the NLRB. The day they were appointed, they stopped three ongoing lawsuits against Apple (including the #appleToo anti-harassment class action suit): https://appleinsider.com/articles/25/04/02/trump-admin-poaches-apple-attorney-for-nlrb-future-of-labor-complaints-in-doubt https://appleinsider.com/articles/25/04/02/trump-admin-poach... Tim Cook is better at PR than Musk, but he's also a member of Trump's inner circle (why else would there be tariff carveouts that directly benefit Apple?): https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/apple-ceo-tim-cook-seen-behind-us-president-donald-trump-news-photo/2194374835 https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/apple-ceo-tim-... Unlike Musk, the two were also close during Trump 1.0. The rainbow thingy isn't a gay pride thing. The rainbow colors are out of order, just like in the original Apple logo.
thrill 1y ago
"is there any reason to believe they won't be pardoned" Shortly after the next unexplained bull market in $TRUMP a pardon will appear along with direct links to their upcoming subscription service conveniently preloaded and un-delete-able from the iPhone Home Screen.

Is there any reason to believe anyone will even get charged, let alone face trial, let alone convicted? And if so is there any reason to believe they won't be pardoned upon a conviction?

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DaiPlusPlus 1y ago

> And if so is there any reason to believe they won't be pardoned upon a conviction? Given Apple's direct pushback against Trump's anti-"DEI" campaign, it's less likely than I might have thought - or maybe that's leverage? e.g. what if Trump promises to pardon Apple's executives if they remove the giant rainbow thingie from Apple Park and stop selling pride-related Apple watch straps?

coldpie 1y ago
You are being distracted by the culture war sideshow. No war but the class war, and Apple's execs are definitely powerful enough players in that war to protect themselves from consequences.
- afavour 1y ago
  It's not really a culture war sideshow it's a "buying favor with the administration" sideshow. And it does matter, Trump is not exactly a man with a strong loyalty streak. Demonstrating fealty to him on a regular basis could absolutely result in preferable outcomes for Apple.
  - ujkhsjkdhf234 1y ago
    This is a state case. Referral for criminal charges goes to a district attorney in Northern California. Trump's DOJ could try to lean on California but no one in California has any taste for Trump and his people.
    - grogenaut 1y ago
      Have you been to the county of orange? San Francisco does not California make.
      - ujkhsjkdhf234 1y ago
        I live in California. I know how red parts of the state are.
        DaiPlusPlus 1y ago
        Bakersfield, amirite?
      - weaksauce 1y ago
        orange county is still pretty liberal just not quite as liberal as the other parts. huntington beach and newport beach is not all of orange.
        dragonwriter 1y ago
        Orange often gets cited as the example of a Republican county in California because it is the highest population county that is pretty reliably Republican (it has a slight Republican registration edge, but more solidly votes Republican because it also has a Republican-favoring balance of independent-by-registratiom voters.) But most of the Central Valley and the inland Northern California counties are much more Republican than Orange.
      - dragonwriter 1y ago
        Have you been to the county of Modoc? The urban coastal enclaves do not California make. (I mean, sure, by population they mostly do, and are overwhelmingly Democratic, but if you are going to look for a county that goes against the partisan trend of the state, staying in the urban coastal enclaves and picking Orange is actually a fairly weak example.)
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- johnnyanmac 1y ago
  >No war but the class war, You're normally right. But Trump is also a very petty narcissist. His "culture war" is pretty much "anyone who makes him feel bad". >Apple's execs are definitely powerful enough players in that war to protect themselves from consequences. That's why I hope courts do start throwing contempt around. Execs need to remember they aren't above the law to the point where they can blatantly lie to a judge.
hedora 1y ago
An Apple attorney is now head of the NLRB. The day they were appointed, they stopped three ongoing lawsuits against Apple (including the #appleToo anti-harassment class action suit): https://appleinsider.com/articles/25/04/02/trump-admin-poaches-apple-attorney-for-nlrb-future-of-labor-complaints-in-doubt https://appleinsider.com/articles/25/04/02/trump-admin-poach... Tim Cook is better at PR than Musk, but he's also a member of Trump's inner circle (why else would there be tariff carveouts that directly benefit Apple?): https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/apple-ceo-tim-cook-seen-behind-us-president-donald-trump-news-photo/2194374835 https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/apple-ceo-tim-... Unlike Musk, the two were also close during Trump 1.0. The rainbow thingy isn't a gay pride thing. The rainbow colors are out of order, just like in the original Apple logo.

thrill 1y ago

"is there any reason to believe they won't be pardoned" Shortly after the next unexplained bull market in $TRUMP a pardon will appear along with direct links to their upcoming subscription service conveniently preloaded and un-delete-able from the iPhone Home Screen.