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What propaganda? What do you mean? Edit: I think it's a good time to read this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_in_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine http

• drysine 1y ago
  Like this one from the first days of the war: "Ukraine has honoured 13 soldiers who were killed defending a tiny island after reportedly swearing at a Russian ship that ordered them to surrender. In unverified audio clips, the borders guards defending Zmiinyi Island in the Black Sea are told to "lay down your weapons" or "be bombed". "Russian warship, go to hell," they respond. Ukraine says they were then killed by air and sea strikes. Russia denies the account, saying they all surrendered. Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky has awarded each of the guards the posthumous title of "Hero of Ukraine". "On our Zmiinyi Island, defending it to the last, all the border guards died heroically," Mr Zelensky said." [0] This senseless slaughter in response to a verbal insult was used to the maximum extent by the Ukrainian regime propaganda to convince the population and the army to fight. All of it was a lie, of course. [1] I believed it too and was deeply shocked by the horrible news. Of course, this trick works only once. [0] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60522454 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60522454 [1] https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-698897 https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-698897
  • fodmap 1y ago
    I'm reporting about crimes against civilians. What you're posting is not related at all. It looks to me you're trying too hard to derail the conversation.
    • drysine 1y ago
      You asked what I meant by atrocity propaganda. I gave you an example of atrocity propaganda coming from Kiev. How is it not related? Now, how do you know that what you are "reporting" is not the same kind of story?
      • fodmap 1y ago
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        • drysine 1y ago
          "independent"?
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            • drysine 1y ago
              I looked at the article. There are two "sources": "Yuriy Belousov, who heads the war crimes department at the Ukrainian Prosecutor General’s Office, said that forensic examination found “numerous signs of torture and ill-treatment… including abrasions and hemorrhages on various parts of the body, a broken rib and possible traces of electric shock.” ... Roshchyna’s colleagues at Ukrainska Pravda said her body was returned from Russia with missing organs. Citing members of the investigating team who handled her remains, they said the brain, eyeballs and part of the trachea, or windpipe, were missing, in what they said could have been an attempt by Russia to disguise the cause of death. " Can you tell me why the head of the war crimes department talks about a broken rib but says nothing about "missing organs"? Quite odd, isn't it? Have you thought about it before asking if I condemn "the mutilation" of that woman?
              • fodmap 1y ago