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Best thing I've seen all day. (Go ahead and downvote me, this comment has absolutely value, yet despite knowing that I'm so happy I still feel compelled to pos

by sho_hn 14y ago

Best thing I've seen all day. (Go ahead and downvote me, this comment has absolutely value, yet despite knowing that I'm so happy I still feel compelled to post it. :)

eliben 14y ago
I'll actually upvote you, because I agree this is great. With the 3.3 release almost through the door, 3.x becomes a simply better Python than 2.x and time is ripe to start switching.
- sho_hn 14y ago
  Heck, I don't even use Django. But I'm in the lucky position of having been able to switch to Python 3 already (some of my code still has to keep compatibility with 2.6/2.7, which is reasonably doable, but much of it even gets to care about nothing but 3), and I'm happier now than I was on Python 2 - it's a better language now. I'm frustrated about having to defend that view to people who are frustrated about the transitional pain all the time, so a big milestone toward getting that pain behind us is a cause to celebrate. A Python 3 Django is a big deal both pragmatically for all the great sites using it _and_ psychologically for the Python community.
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oinksoft 14y ago
I'm apathetic, but please let's not start the trend of self-aware "downvote me" or "why the downvotes?" comments on this website. I'm of the opinion that it's needless, manipulative clutter.
- reitzensteinm 14y ago
  Whereas the base comment is fine - some things are delightful and there's nothing wrong with saying so. As long as there aren't a bunch of "me too" comments, of course.
- dbaupp 14y ago
  I agree that the former is clutter, but the latter is good, as long as the commenter is clearly trying to learn from/correct whatever mistake they had made. e.g. "This is being downvoted and I don't understand why. Could someone please explain the problem?" or "Why the downvotes? Is it because ...?"
  - oinksoft 14y ago
    I guess I prefer the fire-and-forget approach, only going back to edit my own comments for spelling and grammar ("EDIT: ... EDIT 2: ... is sort of grating to me). You make a good point though, and I don't believe that comment-self-awareness is universally an attempt at manipulation.

by sho_hn 14y ago

Best thing I've seen all day. (Go ahead and downvote me, this comment has absolutely value, yet despite knowing that I'm so happy I still feel compelled to post it. :)

eliben 14y ago

I'll actually upvote you, because I agree this is great. With the 3.3 release almost through the door, 3.x becomes a simply better Python than 2.x and time is ripe to start switching.

sho_hn 14y ago
Heck, I don't even use Django. But I'm in the lucky position of having been able to switch to Python 3 already (some of my code still has to keep compatibility with 2.6/2.7, which is reasonably doable, but much of it even gets to care about nothing but 3), and I'm happier now than I was on Python 2 - it's a better language now. I'm frustrated about having to defend that view to people who are frustrated about the transitional pain all the time, so a big milestone toward getting that pain behind us is a cause to celebrate. A Python 3 Django is a big deal both pragmatically for all the great sites using it _and_ psychologically for the Python community.

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oinksoft 14y ago

I'm apathetic, but please let's not start the trend of self-aware "downvote me" or "why the downvotes?" comments on this website. I'm of the opinion that it's needless, manipulative clutter.

reitzensteinm 14y ago
Whereas the base comment is fine - some things are delightful and there's nothing wrong with saying so. As long as there aren't a bunch of "me too" comments, of course.
dbaupp 14y ago
I agree that the former is clutter, but the latter is good, as long as the commenter is clearly trying to learn from/correct whatever mistake they had made. e.g. "This is being downvoted and I don't understand why. Could someone please explain the problem?" or "Why the downvotes? Is it because ...?"
- oinksoft 14y ago
  I guess I prefer the fire-and-forget approach, only going back to edit my own comments for spelling and grammar ("EDIT: ... EDIT 2: ... is sort of grating to me). You make a good point though, and I don't believe that comment-self-awareness is universally an attempt at manipulation.