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It seems insane to me that a group of people who live near you can tell you how you dry your washing. From a UK perspective, HOA's seem mad.

freddie_mercury 1y ago
The UK also has homeowners associations and some of them ban outdoors clothes drying. I'm surprised you didn't know that.
- gambiting 1y ago
  I live in the UK and I've never heard of that - do you have any examples? The one thing I could find is leasehold covenants prohitibing it, but that's almost always moot and ridiculously difficult to enforce.
  - freddie_mercury 1y ago
    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/lifestyle/homes-and-gardens/developers-accused-of-crossing-the-line-with-washing-ban-in-edinburgh-gardens-3210269 https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/lifestyle/homes-and-g... Banning laundry hanging is much less common in the UK so harder to find examples. But POAs are reasonably common and enforce all kinds of things for aesthetic reasons.
potato3732842 1y ago
HOA rules and local ordinances are written by the most petty people who have the least other stuff going on and the strongest desire to use threat of violence to control other people. With selection bias like that it's not surprising what you get.
Der_Einzige 1y ago
HOA's are a death cult to keep the home values of all houses within them guaranteed to go up. The sad part is that it works - HOA neighborhoods have guarantees that things which (old white people) hate, like loud parties, will not happen. Stop buying HOA homes, and people will stop forming them. The market has spoken and a lot of Americans love them.
- jerlam 1y ago
  I live in a condo and share a roof, walls, and driveways with my neighbors so an HOA or something like it is probably required. I am thankful that my HOA board is mostly hands-off, and many of the more petty rules are not enforced. If I had to buy a standalone home, I would probably have to pay considerably more and live in a worse part of the neighborhood.

freddie_mercury 1y ago

The UK also has homeowners associations and some of them ban outdoors clothes drying. I'm surprised you didn't know that.

gambiting 1y ago
I live in the UK and I've never heard of that - do you have any examples? The one thing I could find is leasehold covenants prohitibing it, but that's almost always moot and ridiculously difficult to enforce.
- freddie_mercury 1y ago
  https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/lifestyle/homes-and-gardens/developers-accused-of-crossing-the-line-with-washing-ban-in-edinburgh-gardens-3210269 https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/lifestyle/homes-and-g... Banning laundry hanging is much less common in the UK so harder to find examples. But POAs are reasonably common and enforce all kinds of things for aesthetic reasons.

potato3732842 1y ago

HOA rules and local ordinances are written by the most petty people who have the least other stuff going on and the strongest desire to use threat of violence to control other people. With selection bias like that it's not surprising what you get.

Der_Einzige 1y ago

HOA's are a death cult to keep the home values of all houses within them guaranteed to go up. The sad part is that it works - HOA neighborhoods have guarantees that things which (old white people) hate, like loud parties, will not happen. Stop buying HOA homes, and people will stop forming them. The market has spoken and a lot of Americans love them.

jerlam 1y ago
I live in a condo and share a roof, walls, and driveways with my neighbors so an HOA or something like it is probably required. I am thankful that my HOA board is mostly hands-off, and many of the more petty rules are not enforced. If I had to buy a standalone home, I would probably have to pay considerably more and live in a worse part of the neighborhood.