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> "One of the things that we've noted is that you'll have a person in Poland applying with a very complicated name," he recounted, "and then when you get them o
by progbits 1y ago
> "One of the things that we've noted is that you'll have a person in Poland applying with a very complicated name," he recounted, "and then when you get them on Zoom calls it's a military age male Asian who can't pronounce it."
Why not simply pretend they are from South Korea?
Tinfoil: Maybe these ones are supposed to fail so everyone feels like they are so clever in stopping them.
- graemep 1y agoWhen you are dealing with intelligence services and others who work through deceit that sort of thinking is not tinfoil.
- alganet 1y agoI have come to a conclusion about this "tinfoil" thing. Expectation: intelligence services, spies, secrets Reality: bunch of ponzi schemers, arrogant sub revolutionaries, greedy people, envious people. All together in a pseudo network of trust, always at each other's throats. Unrepentable and thus, impossible to forgive. Sad but not much.
- dylan604 1y agoso even though reality isn't exactly as the expected, they are still detecting them because they are more sensitive to situation than normies. situational awareness is not a bad thing even if the reason your heightened awareness is up for a different reason.
- alganet 1y agoWhat are you even talking about? Sounds like complete bullshit. Your response is exactly the sort of thing I see as a social scam. Situation awareness? That makes no fucking sense.
- dylan604 1y agoyou've never heard the term situational awareness? that's funny. if someone thinks there's a conspiracy behind everything so they trust nothing and then it turns out that the thing could not be trusted but because of a different reason than the suspected conspiracy doesn't make the conspiracy theorist wrong about the lack of trust. just the reason for the lack of trust. compare that to someone that trusts everything. they get screwed because they were not paying attention to trust should be suspect. yet the kooky conspiracy person was better off even if for the not so right reason
- alganet 1y agoSounds like bullshit. You are talking about personas, like they're action figures or something. "the conspiracy theorist" "the spy" "the trusty shieldbarer" Then you did a mini plot to tell a small storyline that attaches itself to the conversation. I can do that too if I want. If you do it to help people, then it's good. If you are doing it to confuse someone or get advantage, then it's a dick move. Raising those issues about "suspecting everything" is something that I've been exposed to my whole life. Specially in the last years, it has been more intense. Instead, I believe the stronger position is to believe in human kindness. A healthy mixture of skepticism and trust that cannot be put in a box. Being good without being a fool. Which entails the act of sometimes entertaining the dumb conspiracy agitator or other disruptive personalities. The more you do it, the harder it is for toxic people. They quickly get into a very previsible box and even pretend they like it.
- 542354234235 1y agoA conspiracist shouldn’t be confused with a skeptic that attempts to practice and employ critical thinking and structured analysis to issues. Conspiracists get taken in by scams all the time because they put their trust in perceived “outsiders”. Alex Jones sold snake oil for decades to conspiracy rubes. Conspiracism is just a different dogmatic worldview.
- alganet 1y agoCan you elaborate on the difference?
- vintermann 1y agoIsn't that what intelligence services and spies are like too? Adam Curtis wrote a great article on it once: https://www.bbc.co.uk/webarchive/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.co.uk%2Fblogs%2Fadamcurtis%2Fentries%2F3662a707-0af9-3149-963f-47bea720b460 https://www.bbc.co.uk/webarchive/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.co.uk...
- voytec 1y agoFriend's comment: > Konichiwa, Brzęczyszczykiewicz-san.
- veggieroll 1y ago> Brzęczyszczykiewicz For anyone not familiar, this is a Polish joke. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfKZclMWS1U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfKZclMWS1U
- bobmcnamara 1y agoBorn?
- veggieroll 1y agoChrząszczyżewoszyce powiat Łękołody
- arwhatever 1y agoThat is hilarious and would be hilarious even without any context. If I don't bookmark it now then I'll never be able to find it again. :-)
- pavlov 1y agoSometimes I wonder why Polish didn’t replace the z digrams with accented letters (č, ž etc.) like many other Slavic languages.
- voytec 1y agoWhy would we? It "just works". We've only changed how we write the letter "ż" some 30-20 years ago. It was previously "ƶ". Also, "ż" and "ź" are not accents but separate alphabet letters.
- zbyforgotp 1y agoThere was no typeface change for “ż” - the other typeface is sometimes used now as it was 30 years ago. See the foto at Wikipedia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%BB https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%BB
- throwaway743 1y agoMight work, but they'd have to learn to mask their NK accent.
- croisillon 1y agoYou seriously never noticed John Krasinski is Asian? Hats off to you for not seeing race!
- mock-possum 1y agoPoorly-presented staging for a scam is part of the process - it allows you to select for only the least credulous of marks. If they fall for something that obvious, then you know you can take for everything they’ve got. That’s the entire principle behind the Nigerian prince email scam.
- poincaredisk 1y ago>That’s the entire principle behind the Nigerian prince email scam. I always hear people repeating this, but in my experience this is not true. People doing mass scams are just not very competent.