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I must say that I do not think you read my remarks to have the visceral and unwarranted response that you did. There was nothing in my remarks that recommends s

I must say that I do not think you read my remarks to have the visceral and unwarranted response that you did. There was nothing in my remarks that recommends spanking in a negative manner. Being on the spectrum myself and having worked with many in these situations and with this, I will tell you that my personal experience says otherwise. Believe what you will, and I will believe what I will. I can assure you that wonderful and salutary results come through helping children to learn not to harm other people in proper and healthy ways.

toomuchtodo 1y ago
I’m calling CPS if I see a parent do it or they divulge they do it, belief systems don’t justify abuse when the evidence is clear with regards to the harm it causes. If you don’t believe spanking is abuse, there is no middle ground to meet, regardless of justification.
- valunord 1y ago
  That is your choice to do it. I have worked with CPS who has recommended it in multiple states. Furthermore, this is not something that should be done publicly neither should a spectacle be made of such a thing. I really do not think you understand what was written.
  - yorwba 1y ago
    I assume "CPS" expands to "Child Protection Services"? How ironic that they would subvert their mission by encouraging parents to beat their children.
    - valunord 1y ago
      You clearly did not understand what was written.
      - yorwba 1y ago
        I understood perfectly. You live in a society where parents beating their children is so normalized that even people whose job is ostensibly to protect children from harm fail to see anything wrong with it, and elaborate rituals have been constructed to justify continuing the tradition. Yet I suspect an employer exactly following the prescribed procedure when spanking his employees would nonetheless be charged with battery. You might want to read about the time when a third of all men on Pitcairn Island were convicted of rape: https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2008/01/pitcairn200801 https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2008/01/pitcairn200801 If you had grown up on Pitcairn, would you have realized that something was wrong, or would you have justified the practice like the wife of an islander did? “It’s Polynesian to break your girls in at 12.” Something to think about.
        valunord 1y ago
        I maintain that you did not at all understand my remarks.
- almosthere 1y ago
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  - valunord 1y ago
    I don't think I'd use the term `great` - as it is a very grave and serious matter and should be reserved for the most serious of situations where they cannot resolve the situation in any other way. Again, I would only reserve it for injurious situations where bodily harm or risk of death is part of the equation. It is a form of communication that is very hard to recover from if it is not done properly and with supernal parental love. There are many other ways to resolve other issues, but you are definitely correct about the ego monster that arises from being treated as royalty. Children must be balanced, and there are definite ways to do that that do not require spanking.

toomuchtodo 1y ago

I’m calling CPS if I see a parent do it or they divulge they do it, belief systems don’t justify abuse when the evidence is clear with regards to the harm it causes. If you don’t believe spanking is abuse, there is no middle ground to meet, regardless of justification.

valunord 1y ago
That is your choice to do it. I have worked with CPS who has recommended it in multiple states. Furthermore, this is not something that should be done publicly neither should a spectacle be made of such a thing. I really do not think you understand what was written.
- yorwba 1y ago
  I assume "CPS" expands to "Child Protection Services"? How ironic that they would subvert their mission by encouraging parents to beat their children.
  - valunord 1y ago
    You clearly did not understand what was written.
    - yorwba 1y ago
      I understood perfectly. You live in a society where parents beating their children is so normalized that even people whose job is ostensibly to protect children from harm fail to see anything wrong with it, and elaborate rituals have been constructed to justify continuing the tradition. Yet I suspect an employer exactly following the prescribed procedure when spanking his employees would nonetheless be charged with battery. You might want to read about the time when a third of all men on Pitcairn Island were convicted of rape: https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2008/01/pitcairn200801 https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2008/01/pitcairn200801 If you had grown up on Pitcairn, would you have realized that something was wrong, or would you have justified the practice like the wife of an islander did? “It’s Polynesian to break your girls in at 12.” Something to think about.
      - valunord 1y ago
        I maintain that you did not at all understand my remarks.
almosthere 1y ago
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- valunord 1y ago
  I don't think I'd use the term `great` - as it is a very grave and serious matter and should be reserved for the most serious of situations where they cannot resolve the situation in any other way. Again, I would only reserve it for injurious situations where bodily harm or risk of death is part of the equation. It is a form of communication that is very hard to recover from if it is not done properly and with supernal parental love. There are many other ways to resolve other issues, but you are definitely correct about the ego monster that arises from being treated as royalty. Children must be balanced, and there are definite ways to do that that do not require spanking.