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You can’t arrest a fictitious person.
by brudgers 2y ago
You can’t arrest a fictitious person.
- cowfarts 2y ago[dead]
- dbetteridge 2y agoWhy not? If a company is a person, it can go in jail. Freeze their ability to do anything above basic life support without the permission of the judge or court.
- Wobbles42 2y agoFreeze their ability to do anything period. Physically lock the incorporation documents in a prison cell. They won't need to do "basic life support", the documents will be provided with trays of food, water, and adequate opportunities for exercise by the prison facility. If they need more than that, they can petition their former customers to send money to their prison commissary account for the purchase of snacks, toiletries and such.
- rfrey 2y agoIs your comment asserting that there are no people poor enough to steal food? Or are you claiming that poor people do not get arrested and are in fact treated with kindness and compassion by the various police agencies?
- brudgers 2y agoThe “them” of Apple is a fictitious person. https://www.dictionary.com/browse/fictitious-person https://www.dictionary.com/browse/fictitious-person Your assumptions are absurd.
- rfrey 2y agoThanks and apologies, I totally misinterpreted your comment.
- ane 2y agoRefers to corporate personhood. You can't jail Apple Inc.
- layer8 2y agoTim Cook isn't fictious, even if it sometimes appears that way.
- brudgers 2y agoLegally, Tim Cook is just another employee. Apple is a corporation. Legally, corporations are persons. Corporations are often referred to as fictitious persons in legal contexts to reduce confusion.
- randunel 2y agoA fictitious person's executives and directors are typically real. Or, if fictitious as well, go down the rabbit hole of said contractors until you finally find the real ones. In the country I'm from, each exec gets a partial sentence in accordance with their contribution to the criminal act. And no, the total amount on years in prison needn't match the total, there's a minimum and also percentages always exceed 100%. Limited liability doesn't and shouldn't protect criminals from imprisonment.
- Wobbles42 2y agoCareful. The real humans at the bottom of that rabbit hole are the individual shareholders. That is the real root of this problem -- the people that ultimately profit from this behavior (a group that, ironically, almost certainly includes the judge in this case, and most of the people in this thread) have no responsibility whatsoever.
- poincaredisk 2y agoBecause they're not responsible? We (shareholders) pay executives to manage the companies. This means doing what is best for the company, not committing crimes.
- sureIy 2y agoIs the CEO just following orders then? I think there's a precedent for that ruling.
- Biganon 2y agoPiercing the corporate veil is a thing.
- DecentShoes 2y agoI assure you apple is run by real humans