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I switch to Google Docs/Sheets/Presentations many years ago as my primary tool and I haven't installed any type of local office in 6 years. Google Workspace ha

I switch to Google Docs/Sheets/Presentations many years ago as my primary tool and I haven't installed any type of local office in 6 years. Google Workspace has built in digital signature tools and the change tracking in Google Docs is also really good.

486sx33 2y ago
Google workspace is awful , it’s super dooper awful with Gemini shoved up my ass all the time , which is impossible to disable, and trains on all my data. Gsuite makes office look good !!
- Ferret7446 2y ago
  The workspace admins can disable Gemini, among many other things. Google also does not "steal" your data if you read the ToS; any training is strictly scoped to that workspace. If you thought for a few seconds, you would realize that companies with big legal teams would not sign a contract that would give Google the right to their data.
  - bflesch 2y ago
    Yeah google does not steal your data and that's why companies like amazon dont even send you full details of your online shopping order so google can't crawl what you bought and what price you bought it for.
    - arccy 2y ago
      my recent amazon order emails actually came with a full itemized list with prices
  - pavlov 2y ago
    Is it reasonable to assume that individuals and small companies get the same friendly terms as companies with big legal teams and expensive contracts? That may be the case, but I wouldn’t count on it. Probably it can change with one email from Google that has “oh btw we’re changing some contract terms, you have 14 days to opt out, no big deal” buried deep down.
  - ptx 2y ago
    > any training is strictly scoped to that workspace Are they really doing training separately for each workspace? I thought LLM training was enormously expensive and needed lots of data, which wouldn't make sense to do separately.
    - arccy 2y ago
      they're no so much training as providing context just when you invoke it
worik 2y ago
I find Google docs very frustrating. What blows my mind is how dreadful search is in Google docs. The thing that should be really good is really bad. Strange days
- aniforprez 2y ago
  Now that even Google search is garbage, can't really claim they're good at search. It's also always been true that their search at anything aside from the main search product is horrible. YouTube search is its own level of colossal uselessness and has always been that way and has only gotten worse over time. These days it doesn't even show you 10 videos related to your search before going out of its way to show other "related" categories.

486sx33 2y ago

Google workspace is awful , it’s super dooper awful with Gemini shoved up my ass all the time , which is impossible to disable, and trains on all my data. Gsuite makes office look good !!

Ferret7446 2y ago
The workspace admins can disable Gemini, among many other things. Google also does not "steal" your data if you read the ToS; any training is strictly scoped to that workspace. If you thought for a few seconds, you would realize that companies with big legal teams would not sign a contract that would give Google the right to their data.
- bflesch 2y ago
  Yeah google does not steal your data and that's why companies like amazon dont even send you full details of your online shopping order so google can't crawl what you bought and what price you bought it for.
  - arccy 2y ago
    my recent amazon order emails actually came with a full itemized list with prices
- pavlov 2y ago
  Is it reasonable to assume that individuals and small companies get the same friendly terms as companies with big legal teams and expensive contracts? That may be the case, but I wouldn’t count on it. Probably it can change with one email from Google that has “oh btw we’re changing some contract terms, you have 14 days to opt out, no big deal” buried deep down.
- ptx 2y ago
  > any training is strictly scoped to that workspace Are they really doing training separately for each workspace? I thought LLM training was enormously expensive and needed lots of data, which wouldn't make sense to do separately.
  - arccy 2y ago
    they're no so much training as providing context just when you invoke it

worik 2y ago

I find Google docs very frustrating. What blows my mind is how dreadful search is in Google docs. The thing that should be really good is really bad. Strange days

aniforprez 2y ago
Now that even Google search is garbage, can't really claim they're good at search. It's also always been true that their search at anything aside from the main search product is horrible. YouTube search is its own level of colossal uselessness and has always been that way and has only gotten worse over time. These days it doesn't even show you 10 videos related to your search before going out of its way to show other "related" categories.