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I'm actually not sure why so many people are saying it's slow. For me login screen pops up maybe a few seconds from the bios, then everything is fully loaded a

I'm actually not sure why so many people are saying it's slow. For me login screen pops up maybe a few seconds from the bios, then everything is fully loaded after I enter my password.

michaelmrose 1y ago
If you measured with a stop watch I'm sure it would take more than 2 seconds but to be accurate it is perceptibly brief whereas others startup is perceptibly to them slow. Why? When fast startup is enabled shutting down does a reboot and then a hibernate so that it can wake up from hibernate when you start up but with the same effect as a fresh start. This is generally much faster than a full startup. This should and in many cases must be disabled to dual boot another OS. Different hardware takes longer to initialize which may delay startup. This is especially true of failing hardware which may whilst in bad shape continue to work after a fashion but take far longer to initialize. Some hardware is MUCH slower than others.
- spicybright 1y ago
  Oh, I didn't even know fastboot was a thing. That's pretty clever. Does it still need to be disabled if you're dualbooting and not interacting with the windows partition? And yeah, I have a desktop computer. I bet hardware failure rates are much higher in laptops. All good points.
  - michaelmrose 1y ago
    The answer is a definite maybe because some hardware will keep state when hibernated and will be unusable if this isn't disabled. For instance the WiFi won't work in the other OS. Also sooner or later you are going to need a file you received on windows or indeed on any fs mounted on windows. Best just disable the feature.
Spooky23 1y ago
Because.. it’s slow. My team used to do VDI engineering. We could reduce boot times by 30% with optimized and tweaked out configurations, but it was still slower than my out of the box MacBook Air.
- jpalawaga 1y ago
  can you come up with any other reasons why an out of the box mac might be faster than something involving vdi engineering?
  - Spooky23 1y ago
    Less sequential and dependent operations. Windows has alot of stuff that runs in sequence that takes awhile to churn or times out. It’s much better than it was, but Apple is way ahead.

I'm actually not sure why so many people are saying it's slow. For me login screen pops up maybe a few seconds from the bios, then everything is fully loaded after I enter my password.

michaelmrose 1y ago

If you measured with a stop watch I'm sure it would take more than 2 seconds but to be accurate it is perceptibly brief whereas others startup is perceptibly to them slow. Why? When fast startup is enabled shutting down does a reboot and then a hibernate so that it can wake up from hibernate when you start up but with the same effect as a fresh start. This is generally much faster than a full startup. This should and in many cases must be disabled to dual boot another OS. Different hardware takes longer to initialize which may delay startup. This is especially true of failing hardware which may whilst in bad shape continue to work after a fashion but take far longer to initialize. Some hardware is MUCH slower than others.

spicybright 1y ago
Oh, I didn't even know fastboot was a thing. That's pretty clever. Does it still need to be disabled if you're dualbooting and not interacting with the windows partition? And yeah, I have a desktop computer. I bet hardware failure rates are much higher in laptops. All good points.
- michaelmrose 1y ago
  The answer is a definite maybe because some hardware will keep state when hibernated and will be unusable if this isn't disabled. For instance the WiFi won't work in the other OS. Also sooner or later you are going to need a file you received on windows or indeed on any fs mounted on windows. Best just disable the feature.

Spooky23 1y ago

Because.. it’s slow. My team used to do VDI engineering. We could reduce boot times by 30% with optimized and tweaked out configurations, but it was still slower than my out of the box MacBook Air.

jpalawaga 1y ago
can you come up with any other reasons why an out of the box mac might be faster than something involving vdi engineering?
- Spooky23 1y ago
  Less sequential and dependent operations. Windows has alot of stuff that runs in sequence that takes awhile to churn or times out. It’s much better than it was, but Apple is way ahead.