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Yes, this is what people voted for. Either they will get fed up with the outcome, or Trump will reverse course (I suspect the latter). Either way, time to grab

Yes, this is what people voted for. Either they will get fed up with the outcome, or Trump will reverse course (I suspect the latter). Either way, time to grab the popcorn.

throwanem 1y ago
Walmart back rooms are emptying out nationwide. Shelves will do so next. Let's see what tune folks sing when their guy turns their everything store into a scene out of Solzhenitsyn. Of course, liberals will promptly proceed to squander even that advantage with their usual grating condescension and smug incompetence, and then blame everyone else for their own myriad failings, again as always.
- bigyabai 1y ago
  > Of course, liberals will promptly proceed to squander even that advantage It's up to business owners to capitalize on that advantage. Neither liberals nor conservatives are beholden to stabilizing prices at Costco or Adam&Eve. These are privately owned businesses that are fundamentally allowed to plan their businesses apart from (or even against the wishes of) the federal government. This is how we ended up importing our cars from Japan and Mexico, and why our iPhones and Nike won't get made without slave wages. It wasn't Obama or Reagan that did that, it was executives and shareholders.
  - throwanem 1y ago
    Business owners and so on as you enumerated have names, addresses, and assets susceptible to seizure. And the law does not often anticipate novel crimes, nor need.
  - bigbadfeline 1y ago
    > "It wasn't Obama or Reagan that did that, it was executives and shareholders." That pretty much sums up the delusion of the Left. The buck stops with the government, oligarchs understand that and work skillfully to turn the government into their tool. It wasn't ONLY Obama and Reagan who did that (the tool thing), it was the Democrat and Republican parties who almost unanimously did that, helped by a few gatekeepers who made the process more effective.
    - throwanem 1y ago
      So the 'delusion of the left' is that...the money power has exceeded its legitimate influence in government, to constitute some serious degree of corruption? I'm having trouble following your thesis here.
      - bigbadfeline 1y ago
        The money power couldn't have exceeded anything without help from the two governing parties. You're saying that the horses are out of the barn, I'm telling you who opened the barn door and went to the bar to drink with lobbyists. The government's got the key for that door, it might be worthless now but we have to be very clear with the situation if we want to have any hope of fixing this mess.
        throwanem 1y ago
        Okay, sure, you're not wrong in that sense, but I think you may be confusing leftists with liberals. The idea that leftists favor the Democratic over the Republican style of modern party-machine politics, or indeed even recognize any meaningful difference between those two halves of the same sclerosing and hypoxic brain, would be a delusion.
        bigbadfeline 1y ago
        I admit I don't have a clear idea about the leftists you mention. I don't know how politics can be done without a party-machine either. I'll stop here before I start sounding like a political cynic but for me it's just the nature of reality.
        throwanem 1y ago
        You've yet to study history. You may have had it taught at you, which isn't the same but can make a decent start. Bernie Sanders was a genuine and extremely credible leftist presidential candidate in 2016, and a sellout stalking horse for establishment liberal candidates in 2020 and 2024. Understand why that is and whom his antecedents are in the American political tradition into which his example falls, and not too much else in American politics remains obscure.
- CamperBob2 1y ago
  Let's see what tune folks sing when their guy turns their everything store into a scene out of Solzhenitsyn. The Trumpers will blame Biden, Obama, Clinton, and every other Democratic POTUS going back to FDR. But you knew that. They will not blame Trump. The cult leader cannot fail; he can only be failed by others.
  - throwanem 1y ago
    The hard core believes this. We disagree on how large that is. My contention here is only that until the pain really starts, there's no knowing. That pain is about to start.
wkat4242 1y ago
> Either they will get fed up with the outcome, or Trump will reverse course (I suspect the latter) And then when he does, it will be his most amazing, brilliant strategy ever conceived and his backers will eat it up. Even though they're suffering the most.
- ChoGGi 1y ago
  I'm just waiting for Leavitt to tell us all how tariffs are a Democratic tax on good hard-working Republicans when he changes his mind again.

Yes, this is what people voted for. Either they will get fed up with the outcome, or Trump will reverse course (I suspect the latter). Either way, time to grab the popcorn.

throwanem 1y ago

Walmart back rooms are emptying out nationwide. Shelves will do so next. Let's see what tune folks sing when their guy turns their everything store into a scene out of Solzhenitsyn. Of course, liberals will promptly proceed to squander even that advantage with their usual grating condescension and smug incompetence, and then blame everyone else for their own myriad failings, again as always.

bigyabai 1y ago
> Of course, liberals will promptly proceed to squander even that advantage It's up to business owners to capitalize on that advantage. Neither liberals nor conservatives are beholden to stabilizing prices at Costco or Adam&Eve. These are privately owned businesses that are fundamentally allowed to plan their businesses apart from (or even against the wishes of) the federal government. This is how we ended up importing our cars from Japan and Mexico, and why our iPhones and Nike won't get made without slave wages. It wasn't Obama or Reagan that did that, it was executives and shareholders.
- throwanem 1y ago
  Business owners and so on as you enumerated have names, addresses, and assets susceptible to seizure. And the law does not often anticipate novel crimes, nor need.
- bigbadfeline 1y ago
  > "It wasn't Obama or Reagan that did that, it was executives and shareholders." That pretty much sums up the delusion of the Left. The buck stops with the government, oligarchs understand that and work skillfully to turn the government into their tool. It wasn't ONLY Obama and Reagan who did that (the tool thing), it was the Democrat and Republican parties who almost unanimously did that, helped by a few gatekeepers who made the process more effective.
  - throwanem 1y ago
    So the 'delusion of the left' is that...the money power has exceeded its legitimate influence in government, to constitute some serious degree of corruption? I'm having trouble following your thesis here.
    - bigbadfeline 1y ago
      The money power couldn't have exceeded anything without help from the two governing parties. You're saying that the horses are out of the barn, I'm telling you who opened the barn door and went to the bar to drink with lobbyists. The government's got the key for that door, it might be worthless now but we have to be very clear with the situation if we want to have any hope of fixing this mess.
      - throwanem 1y ago
        Okay, sure, you're not wrong in that sense, but I think you may be confusing leftists with liberals. The idea that leftists favor the Democratic over the Republican style of modern party-machine politics, or indeed even recognize any meaningful difference between those two halves of the same sclerosing and hypoxic brain, would be a delusion.
        bigbadfeline 1y ago
        I admit I don't have a clear idea about the leftists you mention. I don't know how politics can be done without a party-machine either. I'll stop here before I start sounding like a political cynic but for me it's just the nature of reality.
        throwanem 1y ago
        You've yet to study history. You may have had it taught at you, which isn't the same but can make a decent start. Bernie Sanders was a genuine and extremely credible leftist presidential candidate in 2016, and a sellout stalking horse for establishment liberal candidates in 2020 and 2024. Understand why that is and whom his antecedents are in the American political tradition into which his example falls, and not too much else in American politics remains obscure.
CamperBob2 1y ago
Let's see what tune folks sing when their guy turns their everything store into a scene out of Solzhenitsyn. The Trumpers will blame Biden, Obama, Clinton, and every other Democratic POTUS going back to FDR. But you knew that. They will not blame Trump. The cult leader cannot fail; he can only be failed by others.
- throwanem 1y ago
  The hard core believes this. We disagree on how large that is. My contention here is only that until the pain really starts, there's no knowing. That pain is about to start.

wkat4242 1y ago

> Either they will get fed up with the outcome, or Trump will reverse course (I suspect the latter) And then when he does, it will be his most amazing, brilliant strategy ever conceived and his backers will eat it up. Even though they're suffering the most.

ChoGGi 1y ago
I'm just waiting for Leavitt to tell us all how tariffs are a Democratic tax on good hard-working Republicans when he changes his mind again.