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They link to a $15 developer board on Aliexpress (much the same as the rest of the ESP developer boards floating around for years) which is now inflated to $35

They link to a $15 developer board on Aliexpress (much the same as the rest of the ESP developer boards floating around for years) which is now inflated to $35 with tax, shipping, and tariff. My impulse purchase has been tempered with "eh, do I really need it?"

turnsout 2y ago
This should help all the US-based RISC-V microcontroller companies though, right? /s
- orthecreedence 2y ago
  Finally all the mom and pop chip fabs running out of a garage get a fighting chance.
  - dx4100 2y ago
    Can't wait to buy from some west coast hipster with a garage fab now that it's economically viable. /s
    - colechristensen 2y ago
      But wouldn't it be cool if that were a thing? Miniaturized fab tech that some extreme tech hipster could produce bespoke chips out of the garage? I wonder if you gave the right people a billion dollars what the best garage sized fab they could develop could do.
Alupis 2y ago
The really criminal thing is it only costs $8.43 to mail that thing from China to your house in the USA... it likely would cost you more to mail that same item to yourself from yourself. That alone puts US-based sellers at a mega disadvantage compared to cheap Chinese goods - and it's not a good thing.
- Aurornis 2y ago
  Most of my Aliexpress electronics orders are shipped to a local US Aliexpress distribution center which then mails them locally. These come in small padded envelopes which are not expensive to ship.
- colechristensen 2y ago
  >The really criminal thing is it only costs $8.43 to mail that thing from China to your house in the USA... it likely would cost you more to mail that same item to yourself from yourself. These things are tiny and very cheap to ship. I could probably pack 40 of them into a USPS flat rate box shipped anywhere in the US for $9.30. This was a decent argument when you could get things shipped from China for $0.50, but not now or in this case.
  - ewoodrich 2y ago
    Yeah if I were mailing a single one of these to myself I bet I could get away dropping it in a regular envelope with maybe an extra stamp. (Assuming they come without the headers soldered on like most of the clones I’ve got from AliExpress, RIP).
- queenkjuul 2y ago
  Well they all get made in China, why should i need to pay a US middleman
ryukoposting 2y ago
Even $15 is on the high end for Espressif dev boards. Not that it's saying much. If all you need is Zigbee/BLE and a few IO pins, an nRF52840 dongle is still $10 on DigiKey.
- colechristensen 2y ago
  These are ones actually made by Espressif and limit is one per person (presumably supply issues as they ramp up mass production), certainly there will be dozens of clones soon.
davb 2y ago
Fortunately it’s only £16.40 with VAT and shipping to the UK. Approx $21.85. Comparable to the £9 M5Stack AtomS3 Lite (ESP32-S3) I picked up from Pi Hut recently.
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seba_dos1 2y ago
Don't confuse people. It's only like that in a single country that seems hell bent on making itself not matter that much anymore.

turnsout 2y ago

This should help all the US-based RISC-V microcontroller companies though, right? /s

orthecreedence 2y ago
Finally all the mom and pop chip fabs running out of a garage get a fighting chance.
- dx4100 2y ago
  Can't wait to buy from some west coast hipster with a garage fab now that it's economically viable. /s
  - colechristensen 2y ago
    But wouldn't it be cool if that were a thing? Miniaturized fab tech that some extreme tech hipster could produce bespoke chips out of the garage? I wonder if you gave the right people a billion dollars what the best garage sized fab they could develop could do.

Alupis 2y ago

The really criminal thing is it only costs $8.43 to mail that thing from China to your house in the USA... it likely would cost you more to mail that same item to yourself from yourself. That alone puts US-based sellers at a mega disadvantage compared to cheap Chinese goods - and it's not a good thing.

Aurornis 2y ago
Most of my Aliexpress electronics orders are shipped to a local US Aliexpress distribution center which then mails them locally. These come in small padded envelopes which are not expensive to ship.
colechristensen 2y ago
>The really criminal thing is it only costs $8.43 to mail that thing from China to your house in the USA... it likely would cost you more to mail that same item to yourself from yourself. These things are tiny and very cheap to ship. I could probably pack 40 of them into a USPS flat rate box shipped anywhere in the US for $9.30. This was a decent argument when you could get things shipped from China for $0.50, but not now or in this case.
- ewoodrich 2y ago
  Yeah if I were mailing a single one of these to myself I bet I could get away dropping it in a regular envelope with maybe an extra stamp. (Assuming they come without the headers soldered on like most of the clones I’ve got from AliExpress, RIP).
queenkjuul 2y ago
Well they all get made in China, why should i need to pay a US middleman

ryukoposting 2y ago

Even $15 is on the high end for Espressif dev boards. Not that it's saying much. If all you need is Zigbee/BLE and a few IO pins, an nRF52840 dongle is still $10 on DigiKey.

colechristensen 2y ago
These are ones actually made by Espressif and limit is one per person (presumably supply issues as they ramp up mass production), certainly there will be dozens of clones soon.

davb 2y ago

Fortunately it’s only £16.40 with VAT and shipping to the UK. Approx $21.85. Comparable to the £9 M5Stack AtomS3 Lite (ESP32-S3) I picked up from Pi Hut recently.

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seba_dos1 2y ago

Don't confuse people. It's only like that in a single country that seems hell bent on making itself not matter that much anymore.