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This requirement is the result of EU regulation.

by MatthiasPortzel 1y ago

Lammy 1y ago
It's Google's decision to enforce it worldwide. I'm not in Europe, and most of my apps' users were not in Europe.
- achierius 1y ago
  It's really hard to know that for sure. Why risk antitrust lawsuits or European fines because you tried to do the bare minimum?
- ghurtado 1y ago
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  - Lammy 1y ago
    Do you think I somehow personally chose where my apps would be more popular or less popular? If they wanted to cut off my apps in only European regions due to European regs it would be disappointing but understandable.
    - ghurtado 1y ago
      > disappointing but understandable. It's amazing to me that there are some people that will go to these lengths to defend the profits of one of the largest corporations in the world. At no point does it even occur to you that Google are already bending you over a table with their cut, and you're already white knighting for them even in a completely hypothetical situation. Do you have very strong investments on Google? Otherwise, I really can't explain why an entrepreneur would ever think the way you do.
      - Lammy 1y ago
        I agree with you, but in my particular case there was nothing for Google to take a cut of. I never sold anything or even took donations.
        ghurtado 1y ago
        Oh, my bad For some reason I thought you sold an app or a service. Serves me well for assuming, my apologies.
- daedrdev 1y ago
  Are you sure Europe wont sue you for europeans using it with a VON or europeans outside europe using it? Because I am not sure they wouldn't sue.
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dhx 1y ago
For reference, the regulation you are probably referring to is Article 30[1] and Article 31[2] of REGULATION (EU) 2022/2065 OF THE EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT AND OF THE COUNCIL of 19 October 2022 on a Single Market For Digital Services and amending Directive 2000/31/EC (Digital Services Act). Article 30 requires capturing and vaguely defined validation of the following information supplied by a trader (includes traders of software): - the name, address, telephone number and email address of the trader; - a copy of the identification document of the trader or any other electronic identification as defined by Article 3 of Regulation (EU) No 910/2014 of the European Parliament and of the Council; - the payment account details of the trader; - where the trader is registered in a trade register or similar public register, the trade register in which the trader is registered and its registration number or equivalent means of identification in that register; - a self-certification by the trader committing to only offer products or services that comply with the applicable rules of Union law. Article 31 requires at least the following trader information to be displayed to potential buyers: - name; - address; - telephone number; - email address; - clear and unambiguous identification of the products or the services; - information concerning the labelling and marking in compliance with rules of applicable Union law on product safety and product compliance. [1] https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELEX:32022R2065#art_30 https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CEL... [2] https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELEX:32022R2065#art_31 https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CEL...
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This requirement is the result of EU regulation.

Lammy 1y ago

It's Google's decision to enforce it worldwide. I'm not in Europe, and most of my apps' users were not in Europe.

achierius 1y ago
It's really hard to know that for sure. Why risk antitrust lawsuits or European fines because you tried to do the bare minimum?
ghurtado 1y ago
[flagged]
- Lammy 1y ago
  Do you think I somehow personally chose where my apps would be more popular or less popular? If they wanted to cut off my apps in only European regions due to European regs it would be disappointing but understandable.
  - ghurtado 1y ago
    > disappointing but understandable. It's amazing to me that there are some people that will go to these lengths to defend the profits of one of the largest corporations in the world. At no point does it even occur to you that Google are already bending you over a table with their cut, and you're already white knighting for them even in a completely hypothetical situation. Do you have very strong investments on Google? Otherwise, I really can't explain why an entrepreneur would ever think the way you do.
    - Lammy 1y ago
      I agree with you, but in my particular case there was nothing for Google to take a cut of. I never sold anything or even took donations.
      - ghurtado 1y ago
        Oh, my bad For some reason I thought you sold an app or a service. Serves me well for assuming, my apologies.
daedrdev 1y ago
Are you sure Europe wont sue you for europeans using it with a VON or europeans outside europe using it? Because I am not sure they wouldn't sue.

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dhx 1y ago

For reference, the regulation you are probably referring to is Article 30[1] and Article 31[2] of REGULATION (EU) 2022/2065 OF THE EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT AND OF THE COUNCIL of 19 October 2022 on a Single Market For Digital Services and amending Directive 2000/31/EC (Digital Services Act). Article 30 requires capturing and vaguely defined validation of the following information supplied by a trader (includes traders of software): - the name, address, telephone number and email address of the trader; - a copy of the identification document of the trader or any other electronic identification as defined by Article 3 of Regulation (EU) No 910/2014 of the European Parliament and of the Council; - the payment account details of the trader; - where the trader is registered in a trade register or similar public register, the trade register in which the trader is registered and its registration number or equivalent means of identification in that register; - a self-certification by the trader committing to only offer products or services that comply with the applicable rules of Union law. Article 31 requires at least the following trader information to be displayed to potential buyers: - name; - address; - telephone number; - email address; - clear and unambiguous identification of the products or the services; - information concerning the labelling and marking in compliance with rules of applicable Union law on product safety and product compliance. [1] https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELEX:32022R2065#art_30 https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CEL... [2] https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELEX:32022R2065#art_31 https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CEL...

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