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NotebookLM podcasts are like a caricature of a real podcast. Every little verbal technique or narrative style that might be used by a normal podcaster in a subt

NotebookLM podcasts are like a caricature of a real podcast. Every little verbal technique or narrative style that might be used by a normal podcaster in a subtle way is taken to an extreme. The last one I listened to one host would repeat a keyword or phrase the other host had just said for emphasis — except they did incessantly — with multiple words in every sentence for many sentences in a row.

latentsea 1y ago
> NotebookLM podcasts are like a caricature of a real podcast. Every little verbal technique or narrative style that might be used by a normal podcaster in a subtle way is taken to an extreme. So true.
gervwyk 1y ago
Although I 100% agree, there is still a place for it. We place generated conversations with our case studies, and have receive good positive feedback so far, especially from the non-technical crowd. See example https://resonancy.io/case-studies/flava-process-digitization https://resonancy.io/case-studies/flava-process-digitization Of course one can invest more in better authenticity but for what it is, I believe it is a good bang for effort.. Also, if you listen to it for a while, and get over the initial cringe, it becomes enjoyable, at least for me. Some visitors even asked if it was Ai generated. lol Excited and frightened about the future where its more a real. This was a cool comparison I came across recently [2] Interestingly I saw today the Descripts Avatars are made to sound and look non-realistic on purpose to avoid I guess all kind of issues, but they claim they want to leave something authentic on the table for real content. Which I think is a good move.. [1] - https://resonancy.io/case-studies/flava-process-digitization https://resonancy.io/case-studies/flava-process-digitization [2] - https://yummy-fir-7a4.notion.site/dia https://yummy-fir-7a4.notion.site/dia
- Jolter 1y ago
  I really enjoyed the “fire!” example. Very naturalistic!
- hammock 1y ago
  Using them on case studies is a really interesting use case
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sakopov 1y ago
Yeah it was incredible in the beginning because it was so novel. Now it's just annoying. Half of the dialogue is repeated and it takes forever to get a point across. Never used NLM, but I wonder if that's something that can be tuned out?
- BakeInBeens 1y ago
  You can always use interactive mode and ask the podcaster for exactly what you want.
retinaros 1y ago
It is slop in ways that even ghibli OAI is not. I never understood why it ever got good press
mensetmanusman 1y ago
That sounds like a good comedy sketch!
Spooky23 1y ago
It sounds like an NPR podcast, which have been self parodied for a long time.
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meta_ai_x 1y ago
The Google NotebookLM team should take this comment as a badge of honor that they must be doing something right. HN is the worst place to get product feedback (and I'm sure the NotebookLM team has internal metrics that validates their approach)
michelb 1y ago
I have to say it's a caricature of a lot of primarily American podcasts.

latentsea 1y ago

> NotebookLM podcasts are like a caricature of a real podcast. Every little verbal technique or narrative style that might be used by a normal podcaster in a subtle way is taken to an extreme. So true.

gervwyk 1y ago

Although I 100% agree, there is still a place for it. We place generated conversations with our case studies, and have receive good positive feedback so far, especially from the non-technical crowd. See example https://resonancy.io/case-studies/flava-process-digitization https://resonancy.io/case-studies/flava-process-digitization Of course one can invest more in better authenticity but for what it is, I believe it is a good bang for effort.. Also, if you listen to it for a while, and get over the initial cringe, it becomes enjoyable, at least for me. Some visitors even asked if it was Ai generated. lol Excited and frightened about the future where its more a real. This was a cool comparison I came across recently [2] Interestingly I saw today the Descripts Avatars are made to sound and look non-realistic on purpose to avoid I guess all kind of issues, but they claim they want to leave something authentic on the table for real content. Which I think is a good move.. [1] - https://resonancy.io/case-studies/flava-process-digitization https://resonancy.io/case-studies/flava-process-digitization [2] - https://yummy-fir-7a4.notion.site/dia https://yummy-fir-7a4.notion.site/dia

Jolter 1y ago
I really enjoyed the “fire!” example. Very naturalistic!
hammock 1y ago
Using them on case studies is a really interesting use case

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sakopov 1y ago

Yeah it was incredible in the beginning because it was so novel. Now it's just annoying. Half of the dialogue is repeated and it takes forever to get a point across. Never used NLM, but I wonder if that's something that can be tuned out?

BakeInBeens 1y ago
You can always use interactive mode and ask the podcaster for exactly what you want.

retinaros 1y ago

It is slop in ways that even ghibli OAI is not. I never understood why it ever got good press

mensetmanusman 1y ago

That sounds like a good comedy sketch!

Spooky23 1y ago

It sounds like an NPR podcast, which have been self parodied for a long time.

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meta_ai_x 1y ago

The Google NotebookLM team should take this comment as a badge of honor that they must be doing something right. HN is the worst place to get product feedback (and I'm sure the NotebookLM team has internal metrics that validates their approach)

michelb 1y ago

I have to say it's a caricature of a lot of primarily American podcasts.