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The retailers need to start showing tariff charge as separate line. People have the right to to see what they voted for. Yesterday Trump frantically called Bezo

by trhway 2y ago

The retailers need to start showing tariff charge as separate line. People have the right to to see what they voted for. Yesterday Trump frantically called Bezos when Bezos threatened to do it, and Bezos seems to have backed up (probably got some concession for that). Edit: it is also can be treated as a consumer right to know, by analogy with food labeling), what are the major components of the price they are paying, and thus allowing for informed choice.

sgc 2y ago
We need a browser extension that shows estimated tariffs based on "made in" info on the page.
iAMkenough 2y ago
Amazon considered it as a separate line, the White House called it un-American, Amazon stopped considering it.
- achandlerwhite 2y ago
  No they didn’t. If anything it was being discussed and most likely only for Amazon Haul, which is not normal Amazon. That said I wish they would.
  - mcguire 2y ago
    That is what Amazon said in their comments disavowing the additional information.
  - iAMkenough 2y ago
    Strange that the White House would get so worked up over potential plans for Amazon Haul. “Amazon has partnered with a Chinese propaganda arm.”
- BowBun 2y ago
  Source? I did not see this active anywhere, only mentioned.
  - mcguire 2y ago
    https://apnews.com/live/donald-trump-news-updates-4-29-2025#00000196-81a3-d95f-a9fe-c5a37edc0000 https://apnews.com/live/donald-trump-news-updates-4-29-2025#...
- trhway 2y ago
  >the White House called it un-American If anything, what can be more American than making clear when and how much the government is taxing the people? It is like at the core of this nation’s founding.
  - dgfitz 2y ago
    A subtle but important point: the people aren't getting taxed, the importer is getting taxed. If the importer passes those cost increases on to their customers, that is their decision. Of course the importer will pass the costs along, but that isn't the real point. The real point is that it is _expected_ that the costs will be passed along to the end consumer. The whole _goal_ of a tariff is to make people not want to buy the product anymore because it isn't worth the money. There is an uproar about these tariffs, and I get that, people hate trump and everyone who supports him, totally get that too, and when he does a thing, people are going to lose their minds about it. The point of the tariff isn't to tax citizens, it is meant to discourage spending, so the thing isn't imported, so the country of origin loses money and whatever they were selling now has even _less value_ because there is an oversupply. China needs somewhere to dump their slave-labor made garbage much more than US consumers need to buy it.
silisili 2y ago
Retailers and middlemen typically don't like exposing how much -they- paid for an item. Exposing tariffs would show how much things are marked up from time of landing to reaching the shelves.
- potato3732842 2y ago
  Varies based on market. Where middle men actually do things and add lots of value they don't generally care. When your value-add is fronting the cash for a container of something, doing paper pushing and sending the resultant product to an Amazon warehouse people will ask tough questions like "who are all these parties you're pushing papers to? What is their purpose and should they even exist in 2025" all of which is just a proxy for "if we fixed the system you wouldn't exist" and you can't really fault them for that.
  - rvba 2y ago
    What do you mean here? That all should be owned by amazon? Or straight from factory to consumer?
    - potato3732842 2y ago
      Just that the steps you do to import things ought to be simpler and cheaper and probably could be if not for all the entrenched interests that are mostly not visible to the consumer.
- trhway 2y ago
  Those with high markup wouldn't get affected that much. Those with lower markup will get affected more, and they need to show the tariff charge. The tariff charge may also naturally include say the directly related charges like for example the increased insurance premium for the increased, due to the tariff, insured value of the goods while they are being transported/stored. Add to that increased financing required to cover all those costs, etc., and that can snowball to feel significant even for the ones with higher markup.
- bruce511 2y ago
mcguire 2y ago
Amazon reportedly threatened that this morning. They backed down immediately after Trump (or someone at the Whitehouse) called Bezos.

by trhway 2y ago

sgc 2y ago

We need a browser extension that shows estimated tariffs based on "made in" info on the page.

iAMkenough 2y ago

Amazon considered it as a separate line, the White House called it un-American, Amazon stopped considering it.

achandlerwhite 2y ago
No they didn’t. If anything it was being discussed and most likely only for Amazon Haul, which is not normal Amazon. That said I wish they would.
- mcguire 2y ago
  That is what Amazon said in their comments disavowing the additional information.
- iAMkenough 2y ago
  Strange that the White House would get so worked up over potential plans for Amazon Haul. “Amazon has partnered with a Chinese propaganda arm.”
BowBun 2y ago
Source? I did not see this active anywhere, only mentioned.
- mcguire 2y ago
  https://apnews.com/live/donald-trump-news-updates-4-29-2025#00000196-81a3-d95f-a9fe-c5a37edc0000 https://apnews.com/live/donald-trump-news-updates-4-29-2025#...
trhway 2y ago
>the White House called it un-American If anything, what can be more American than making clear when and how much the government is taxing the people? It is like at the core of this nation’s founding.
- dgfitz 2y ago
  A subtle but important point: the people aren't getting taxed, the importer is getting taxed. If the importer passes those cost increases on to their customers, that is their decision. Of course the importer will pass the costs along, but that isn't the real point. The real point is that it is _expected_ that the costs will be passed along to the end consumer. The whole _goal_ of a tariff is to make people not want to buy the product anymore because it isn't worth the money. There is an uproar about these tariffs, and I get that, people hate trump and everyone who supports him, totally get that too, and when he does a thing, people are going to lose their minds about it. The point of the tariff isn't to tax citizens, it is meant to discourage spending, so the thing isn't imported, so the country of origin loses money and whatever they were selling now has even _less value_ because there is an oversupply. China needs somewhere to dump their slave-labor made garbage much more than US consumers need to buy it.

silisili 2y ago

Retailers and middlemen typically don't like exposing how much -they- paid for an item. Exposing tariffs would show how much things are marked up from time of landing to reaching the shelves.

potato3732842 2y ago
Varies based on market. Where middle men actually do things and add lots of value they don't generally care. When your value-add is fronting the cash for a container of something, doing paper pushing and sending the resultant product to an Amazon warehouse people will ask tough questions like "who are all these parties you're pushing papers to? What is their purpose and should they even exist in 2025" all of which is just a proxy for "if we fixed the system you wouldn't exist" and you can't really fault them for that.
- rvba 2y ago
  What do you mean here? That all should be owned by amazon? Or straight from factory to consumer?
  - potato3732842 2y ago
    Just that the steps you do to import things ought to be simpler and cheaper and probably could be if not for all the entrenched interests that are mostly not visible to the consumer.
trhway 2y ago
Those with high markup wouldn't get affected that much. Those with lower markup will get affected more, and they need to show the tariff charge. The tariff charge may also naturally include say the directly related charges like for example the increased insurance premium for the increased, due to the tariff, insured value of the goods while they are being transported/stored. Add to that increased financing required to cover all those costs, etc., and that can snowball to feel significant even for the ones with higher markup.
bruce511 2y ago

mcguire 2y ago

Amazon reportedly threatened that this morning. They backed down immediately after Trump (or someone at the Whitehouse) called Bezos.