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I think they want to impose tariffs on everyone and then remove them from all that are willing to sanction china and help isolating it. 7 weeks should be more t

I think they want to impose tariffs on everyone and then remove them from all that are willing to sanction china and help isolating it. 7 weeks should be more than enough to pull that off or fail. How beneficial it would be for the american economy either way I don't know. I mean all these people are not intelligent. They are just busy.

CharlieDigital 1y ago
Sanction China to what ends? For what objective?
thuanao 1y ago
BRICS is larger than G7 now by GDP and most of the world has deep trade relations with China. US bluff is called. They can’t win a war with China, militarily or materially. US wasted half a century and trillions on lost wars, instead of investing in its citizens. China did the opposite. And those fruits are just beginning to ripen.
- twothreeone 1y ago
  > They can’t win a war with China Nobody wins in that war, that's why either side is so reluctant to start it. > BRICS is larger than G7 now by GDP That's BS. Easy to debunk. Try harder. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRICS#/media/File:BRICS_AND_G7_GDP_Nominal_share_between_1990_to_2024.png https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRICS#/media/File:BRICS_AND_G7...
  - thuanao 1y ago
    Current membership of BRICS (BRICS+) is larger GDP than G7. Either side!? Only the USA speaks of China as having no right to exist and attacks Chinese sovereignty openly at every opportunity. The USA started the trade war, not China. US leadership and its propaganda news channels constantly speak of war with China. Not as a war to defend US territory but as a war to topple the Chinese government. The current defense secretary, Pete Hegseth, wrote in his book "American Crusade: Our Fight to Stay Free", that if Trump could return to the White House and Republicans could take power, "Communist China will fall—and lick its wounds for another two hundred years". Hegseth said China “are literally the villains of our generation”, and warned, "If we don’t stand up to communist China now, we will be standing for the Chinese anthem someday".
    - twothreeone 1y ago
      Relax, that's just words. War starts with weapons. And I would disagree that the US started the trade war. China has been much more aggressive than any other country when it comes to trade policy, certainly more aggressive than the US ever was. Ask literally any company on the planet who wants to do business in China. Or ask the Kenyan's, or Nigerian's about who operates and uses their railways. The only difference is that the Politburo doesn't (openly) discuss its policy. That doesn't mean its actions are hidden, the intention is clear.
      - I-M-S 1y ago
        Wars definitely start with words, not weapons.
      - anigbrowl 1y ago
        Relax, that's just words. Free speech is great and all but a lot of Americans seem to have internalized the idea of just saying whatever you like with no regard for feelings of or impact upon others. War starts with weapons. Please read more history. And I would disagree that the US started the trade war. China has been much more aggressive than any other country when it comes to trade policy [...] This too is historically illiterate. The US happily ripped off others to build its own industrial base, and arguably still does so, with AI companies training on vast archives of unlicensed content and data brokers laundering personal information with zero regard to consumer privacy. Historically the US forced open markets at gunpoint, most famously by sailing naval vessels into Tokyo harbor to demand the Japanese Shogunate engage in trade relations. https://apnews.com/general-news-b40414d22f2248428ce11ff36b88dc53 https://apnews.com/general-news-b40414d22f2248428ce11ff36b88... https://ipwatchdog.com/2017/07/05/americas-industrial-revolution-based-trade-secret-theft/id=85377/ https://ipwatchdog.com/2017/07/05/americas-industrial-revolu... https://www.techdirt.com/2013/03/05/yes-us-industrial-revolution-was-built-piracy-fraud/ https://www.techdirt.com/2013/03/05/yes-us-industrial-revolu... It's not that China doesn't leverage its own economic power in one-sided ways, but this comment reeks of 'it's different when we do it'.
        twothreeone 1y ago
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yen223 1y ago
Which country has sanctioned China as the result of the tariffs so far? Most Asia-pacific nations have expanded trade with China, to make up for the shortfall from reduced trade with America.

CharlieDigital 1y ago

Sanction China to what ends? For what objective?

thuanao 1y ago

BRICS is larger than G7 now by GDP and most of the world has deep trade relations with China. US bluff is called. They can’t win a war with China, militarily or materially. US wasted half a century and trillions on lost wars, instead of investing in its citizens. China did the opposite. And those fruits are just beginning to ripen.

twothreeone 1y ago
> They can’t win a war with China Nobody wins in that war, that's why either side is so reluctant to start it. > BRICS is larger than G7 now by GDP That's BS. Easy to debunk. Try harder. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRICS#/media/File:BRICS_AND_G7_GDP_Nominal_share_between_1990_to_2024.png https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRICS#/media/File:BRICS_AND_G7...
- thuanao 1y ago
  Current membership of BRICS (BRICS+) is larger GDP than G7. Either side!? Only the USA speaks of China as having no right to exist and attacks Chinese sovereignty openly at every opportunity. The USA started the trade war, not China. US leadership and its propaganda news channels constantly speak of war with China. Not as a war to defend US territory but as a war to topple the Chinese government. The current defense secretary, Pete Hegseth, wrote in his book "American Crusade: Our Fight to Stay Free", that if Trump could return to the White House and Republicans could take power, "Communist China will fall—and lick its wounds for another two hundred years". Hegseth said China “are literally the villains of our generation”, and warned, "If we don’t stand up to communist China now, we will be standing for the Chinese anthem someday".
  - twothreeone 1y ago
    Relax, that's just words. War starts with weapons. And I would disagree that the US started the trade war. China has been much more aggressive than any other country when it comes to trade policy, certainly more aggressive than the US ever was. Ask literally any company on the planet who wants to do business in China. Or ask the Kenyan's, or Nigerian's about who operates and uses their railways. The only difference is that the Politburo doesn't (openly) discuss its policy. That doesn't mean its actions are hidden, the intention is clear.
    - I-M-S 1y ago
      Wars definitely start with words, not weapons.
    - anigbrowl 1y ago
      Relax, that's just words. Free speech is great and all but a lot of Americans seem to have internalized the idea of just saying whatever you like with no regard for feelings of or impact upon others. War starts with weapons. Please read more history. And I would disagree that the US started the trade war. China has been much more aggressive than any other country when it comes to trade policy [...] This too is historically illiterate. The US happily ripped off others to build its own industrial base, and arguably still does so, with AI companies training on vast archives of unlicensed content and data brokers laundering personal information with zero regard to consumer privacy. Historically the US forced open markets at gunpoint, most famously by sailing naval vessels into Tokyo harbor to demand the Japanese Shogunate engage in trade relations. https://apnews.com/general-news-b40414d22f2248428ce11ff36b88dc53 https://apnews.com/general-news-b40414d22f2248428ce11ff36b88... https://ipwatchdog.com/2017/07/05/americas-industrial-revolution-based-trade-secret-theft/id=85377/ https://ipwatchdog.com/2017/07/05/americas-industrial-revolu... https://www.techdirt.com/2013/03/05/yes-us-industrial-revolution-was-built-piracy-fraud/ https://www.techdirt.com/2013/03/05/yes-us-industrial-revolu... It's not that China doesn't leverage its own economic power in one-sided ways, but this comment reeks of 'it's different when we do it'.
      - twothreeone 1y ago
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yen223 1y ago

Which country has sanctioned China as the result of the tariffs so far? Most Asia-pacific nations have expanded trade with China, to make up for the shortfall from reduced trade with America.