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This is pretty useful, actually, downvoters. My friends and I were discussing this video yesterday and I was pretty irritated that it took 10 whole minutes to d
by davidw 1y ago
This is pretty useful, actually, downvoters. My friends and I were discussing this video yesterday and I was pretty irritated that it took 10 whole minutes to debunk the social media hyperbole. That could have easily been a blog post that I could have skimmed in 1 minute.
It's a textbook case of why I tend to dislike video as a format.
- jonathanstrange 1y agoThe problem is that no layman can know whether the summary is correct without watching the video, so it takes 11 minutes instead of 10 to assess the information with the summary.
- davidw 1y agoA few relevant charts from the video in the blog post, with links to authoritative sources is plenty to understand that he's correct, without sitting through an entire 10 minutes of video.
- School-Cotton 1y agoYou’re right, but if I want an LLM to summarize a video I can do it myself. I come to HN to talk to humans; talking to AIs makes me depressed. That’s why I downvote immediately every time anyone posts LLM content here.
- s1artibartfast 1y agoBe the change you want to see in the world. You can write that blog!
- davidw 1y agoNo, I can't. I don't know anything about shipping. But the things I do know about - I sure am not doing drawn out videos about them.
- swatcoder 1y agoAn HN user that shares their own summary is providing a unique perspective that only they could offer. That's a great contribution to the site that reinforces community and gets encouraged. An HN user that shares an LLM summary is cluttering the site with the output of a program that anybody could have run. That's just noise that detracts from our community. HN isn't structured to handle programmatic participation the way Twitter/BlueSky/etc are. It maintains its distinguishing character by being a community of people talking to people instead, and it's appropriate to vote/flag in accordance with that.
- davidw 1y agoI disagree: I think it's a decent summary and it's convenient to be able to read it inline with the rest of the discussion without having to go fiddle with some LLM. And I don't think everyone has an LLM just sitting around that can summarize a video from a link. Having wasted 10 minutes of my life watching the video, it's also an accurate summary - "no, shipping has not stopped completely". I would not be happy if they'd just pasted it in without checking that. Videos that take forever to get to the point are something I find incredibly annoying. Maybe you all have a lot more time on your hands to listen to people spend 5 minutes explaining simple charts.
- r053bud 1y agoBetter yet, let’s just add LLM summaries of all articles and links on Hacker News directly. Now I never have to read the linked article.
- davidw 1y agoThis seems really obvious to me but: With a written article I can read a bit at the beginning, skim the contents and still get an idea of what it's about and decide whether I want to read more. Videos are much more difficult to skim or glance over and the beginning is often some boring intro or music or some dudes asking each other how they've been or something equally wasteful of my time.
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- kbelder 1y agoI'm undecided. I hate these llm summaries, and nearly always downvote them. They're rarely helpful, often unpleasant, and very very lazy. But... I may hate links to videos even more. A summary of a video isn't lazy, it's nearly a requirement. So, an upvote for now, at least.