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Cancel culture at its finest. Look at the company registration address: Habr Blockchain Publishing Ltd. Diagorou 4 Kermia Building, 6th floor flat/office 601 1

Cancel culture at its finest. Look at the company registration address: Habr Blockchain Publishing Ltd. Diagorou 4 Kermia Building, 6th floor flat/office 601 1097 Nicosia Cyprus You as a Western customer currently have no way to pay to a Russian legal entity, meaning that VAT and corporate income taxes from your payments are paid in EU and probably supporting Ukraine. I highly doubt that owners repatriate the profits to Russia or they cover operational costs in Russia from foreign income. It is also possible that part of that income goes into salaries of the staff which emigrated after 24.02.2022 and works for Habr remotely, as it happened with many Russian IT companies. So question is, do you have any specific evidence that your money would fund the war or it is just application of collective responsibility?

regnull 1y ago
Russian companies are commonly registered in Cyprus, and the money flow back to Russia. Source: https://www.lemonde.fr/en/les-decodeurs/article/2023/11/14/dirty-money-and-russian-riches-flow-through-cyprus-a-gateway-to-the-eu_6255018_8.html https://www.lemonde.fr/en/les-decodeurs/article/2023/11/14/d...
- ivan_gammel 1y ago
  I am certainly well aware of that. However this proves nothing and my question still stands. Not every company founded by Russians on Cyprus is a money-laundering or a war-funding enterprise. Tax optimization - yes, everyone does that. Friendly jurisdiction - yes, and now more than ever, if you are Russian, you want to do business but stay away from Russian government. A lot of people actually moved to Cyprus because they were opposing the war. Is there any specific evidence that Habr supports the war? This is not a rhetoric question, I expect the answer and I'm fine if the answer is yes.
  - lostmsu 1y ago
    They perpetrate Russian censorship.
  - regnull 1y ago
    We are not talking about convicting them in a court of law. It's perfectly fine to refuse to deal with Russian companies because every ruble they pay in taxes goes to support the war. When the whole society (and yes, regular people too) are in favor of waging a war of their neighbor, refusing to deal with their companies should and must become the default way of action.
    - ivan_gammel 1y ago
      Maybe you should read this then: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_punishment https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_punishment Just like with BDS in case of Israel, this principle is incompatible with Western values. If you apply collective punishment to Russia, how are you different from them?
      - libertine 1y ago
        > The punished group may often have no direct association with the perpetrator other than living in the same area and can not be assumed to exercise control over the perpetrator's actions. Here, the point that's raised is: isn't there any collective responsibility for a group of people that support and re-elect a political leader with 87% of votes, who was, and promised to continue engaging in a war of genocide? Notice that I'm being cynical here, referencing the 87% vote count. While it might be a theatrical display, the regime likes to preach about the legitimacy of Democracy (especially how Ukraine is conducting its democracy), and Russians accepted these results - so even if it's not actually 87%, it's still high. Also, let's not forget that a lot of the invading force is composed of individuals with entrepreneurial ambitions; they're contractors, not conscripts, meaning people who sign up to get well paid to go to Ukraine and kill as many Ukrainians as possible, just because they're Ukrainians. The latest estimates of +950.000 Russian casualties point that it's not just a few people willing to do this, but a lot. So the question that I want to ask you is, at what point does collective responsibility apply? Two points to clarify: - This is an honest question, because I don't know the answer to it, but I just don't think that "there should never be collective responsibility" is a good answer. - Collective responsibility =/= perpetual collective responsibility =/= collective punishment;
WhitneyLand 1y ago
Upvoted your comment. Don’t agree with you, but it seems like good faith discussion and a legitimate question to air out.
- ivan_gammel 1y ago
  Thank you. Yes, this is a genuine and legitimate question to ask.

regnull 1y ago

Russian companies are commonly registered in Cyprus, and the money flow back to Russia. Source: https://www.lemonde.fr/en/les-decodeurs/article/2023/11/14/dirty-money-and-russian-riches-flow-through-cyprus-a-gateway-to-the-eu_6255018_8.html https://www.lemonde.fr/en/les-decodeurs/article/2023/11/14/d...

ivan_gammel 1y ago
I am certainly well aware of that. However this proves nothing and my question still stands. Not every company founded by Russians on Cyprus is a money-laundering or a war-funding enterprise. Tax optimization - yes, everyone does that. Friendly jurisdiction - yes, and now more than ever, if you are Russian, you want to do business but stay away from Russian government. A lot of people actually moved to Cyprus because they were opposing the war. Is there any specific evidence that Habr supports the war? This is not a rhetoric question, I expect the answer and I'm fine if the answer is yes.
- lostmsu 1y ago
  They perpetrate Russian censorship.
- regnull 1y ago
  We are not talking about convicting them in a court of law. It's perfectly fine to refuse to deal with Russian companies because every ruble they pay in taxes goes to support the war. When the whole society (and yes, regular people too) are in favor of waging a war of their neighbor, refusing to deal with their companies should and must become the default way of action.
  - ivan_gammel 1y ago
    Maybe you should read this then: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_punishment https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_punishment Just like with BDS in case of Israel, this principle is incompatible with Western values. If you apply collective punishment to Russia, how are you different from them?
    - libertine 1y ago
      > The punished group may often have no direct association with the perpetrator other than living in the same area and can not be assumed to exercise control over the perpetrator's actions. Here, the point that's raised is: isn't there any collective responsibility for a group of people that support and re-elect a political leader with 87% of votes, who was, and promised to continue engaging in a war of genocide? Notice that I'm being cynical here, referencing the 87% vote count. While it might be a theatrical display, the regime likes to preach about the legitimacy of Democracy (especially how Ukraine is conducting its democracy), and Russians accepted these results - so even if it's not actually 87%, it's still high. Also, let's not forget that a lot of the invading force is composed of individuals with entrepreneurial ambitions; they're contractors, not conscripts, meaning people who sign up to get well paid to go to Ukraine and kill as many Ukrainians as possible, just because they're Ukrainians. The latest estimates of +950.000 Russian casualties point that it's not just a few people willing to do this, but a lot. So the question that I want to ask you is, at what point does collective responsibility apply? Two points to clarify: - This is an honest question, because I don't know the answer to it, but I just don't think that "there should never be collective responsibility" is a good answer. - Collective responsibility =/= perpetual collective responsibility =/= collective punishment;

WhitneyLand 1y ago

Upvoted your comment. Don’t agree with you, but it seems like good faith discussion and a legitimate question to air out.

ivan_gammel 1y ago
Thank you. Yes, this is a genuine and legitimate question to ask.