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Have you met a 16-year old?

by fmbb 1y ago

lupusreal 1y ago
Their fingers are too big to fit in electrical sockets, they should be fine.
- rad_gruchalski 1y ago
  No worries. A tongue will always fit. Especially after some alcohol.
constantcrying 1y ago
They are old enough to drive certain vehicles and old enough to buy alcohol. If we trust them with that surely we can let them do things during the day without constant adult supervision.
- graemep 1y ago
  > They are old enough to drive certain vehicles and old enough to buy alcohol Hopefully not at the same time.
  - Meneth 1y ago
    They would drive to and from the store. Drinking what they bought is a different matter.
    - graemep 1y ago
      It was meant to be a joke.
- doublerabbit 1y ago
  Depends on what. I can't even trust the 40 year developers in my team at work. "Hacky if foreach loop will fix later" Trust is a privilege that must be earned not given. Prove to me you're trustworthy and I'll give you trust. One untrustworthy 16 year old can cause hell chaos in a group of trustworthy teenagers. I've seen it when I was a youth worker.
  - closewith 1y ago
    Trust is by far most often given and earned (or lost) post facto. In fact, that's an essential characteristic of a society. > Depends on what. I can't even trust the 40 year developers in my team at work. "Hacky if foreach loop will fix later" Whenever people make statements like this, I always wonder what their peers think of them. This dismissive attitude is so off-putting.
    - xnorswap 1y ago
      People who make statements like that are the kind of people you dread will pick up your pull request. You just know you're going to go from maybe spending an hour cleaning up some suggestions to a 3-day philosophical battle to get them to a point where they deign to accept your PR.
      - doublerabbit 1y ago
        Not at all. If the code is decent and shows effort I have no problem. If it's sloppy it shite code. I really don't have time to care about what my peers think of me. It's work. I don't want to communicate with them outside work. Work is just another mind space that stays at work. I am strict when it comes to code, I expect the same. I want working maintainable code to enable me to do my job. If people dread submitting a PR because they can't write code with effort, good. I like my ships built strong not weak. If they fix their problem, good. Trust given, more than happy to salute however time and time they've proven to me they don't. These developers have proven to me they won't. These are developers who are those who do not fix the issuing code and will just move on to the next problem hacking it to make it work. If you've never worked with such, then lucky. If this sting for you, time to put more effort in to your work.
        Ghoelian 1y ago
        Ok, so the PR never gets approved and their work never makes it into prod, right?
- _heimdall 1y ago
  The legal drinking age in Finland is 18 or 20, depending on the ABV. Where us the drinking age 16?
  - messe 1y ago
    In Denmark anything less that 16.5% can be purchased by 16 year olds.
    - SwiftyBug 1y ago
      This is crazy. 16.5 is stronger than regular wine.
      - potato3732842 1y ago
        That's exactly the point. It's a middle ground ABV where there aren't a ton of products and below which are mostly fermented beverages and above which is distilled liquor.
  - constantcrying 1y ago
    I was talking about Germany.
  - jonasdegendt 1y ago
    Belgium as well.
  - smoe 1y ago
    In Switzerland, it is 16 for beer and wine, and 18 for spirits (or drinks that contain spirits, like "alcopops", even if they have a low ABV). I think Austria and Germany are the same.
  - lupusreal 1y ago
    Most US states, last I checked. Note: drinking age, not age to buy alcohol. Usually there's some rule about parental consent or only at home.
- tokioyoyo 1y ago
  Do you remember yourself at the age of 16?
  - constantcrying 1y ago
    Sure.
closewith 1y ago
In a very real way, adolescents rise to the responsibilities given to them. Usually teenagers that need modulating is a reflection on their upbringing rather than any innate flaw.
CalRobert 1y ago
Yes, they can be fully functioning young adults if not raised terribly
- Ekaros 1y ago
  And what percentage of entire population of them is not raised terribly?

Have you met a 16-year old?

by fmbb 1y ago

Have you met a 16-year old?

lupusreal 1y ago

Their fingers are too big to fit in electrical sockets, they should be fine.

rad_gruchalski 1y ago
No worries. A tongue will always fit. Especially after some alcohol.

constantcrying 1y ago

They are old enough to drive certain vehicles and old enough to buy alcohol. If we trust them with that surely we can let them do things during the day without constant adult supervision.

graemep 1y ago
> They are old enough to drive certain vehicles and old enough to buy alcohol Hopefully not at the same time.
- Meneth 1y ago
  They would drive to and from the store. Drinking what they bought is a different matter.
  - graemep 1y ago
    It was meant to be a joke.
doublerabbit 1y ago
Depends on what. I can't even trust the 40 year developers in my team at work. "Hacky if foreach loop will fix later" Trust is a privilege that must be earned not given. Prove to me you're trustworthy and I'll give you trust. One untrustworthy 16 year old can cause hell chaos in a group of trustworthy teenagers. I've seen it when I was a youth worker.
- closewith 1y ago
  Trust is by far most often given and earned (or lost) post facto. In fact, that's an essential characteristic of a society. > Depends on what. I can't even trust the 40 year developers in my team at work. "Hacky if foreach loop will fix later" Whenever people make statements like this, I always wonder what their peers think of them. This dismissive attitude is so off-putting.
  - xnorswap 1y ago
    People who make statements like that are the kind of people you dread will pick up your pull request. You just know you're going to go from maybe spending an hour cleaning up some suggestions to a 3-day philosophical battle to get them to a point where they deign to accept your PR.
    - doublerabbit 1y ago
      Not at all. If the code is decent and shows effort I have no problem. If it's sloppy it shite code. I really don't have time to care about what my peers think of me. It's work. I don't want to communicate with them outside work. Work is just another mind space that stays at work. I am strict when it comes to code, I expect the same. I want working maintainable code to enable me to do my job. If people dread submitting a PR because they can't write code with effort, good. I like my ships built strong not weak. If they fix their problem, good. Trust given, more than happy to salute however time and time they've proven to me they don't. These developers have proven to me they won't. These are developers who are those who do not fix the issuing code and will just move on to the next problem hacking it to make it work. If you've never worked with such, then lucky. If this sting for you, time to put more effort in to your work.
      - Ghoelian 1y ago
        Ok, so the PR never gets approved and their work never makes it into prod, right?
_heimdall 1y ago
The legal drinking age in Finland is 18 or 20, depending on the ABV. Where us the drinking age 16?
- messe 1y ago
  In Denmark anything less that 16.5% can be purchased by 16 year olds.
  - SwiftyBug 1y ago
    This is crazy. 16.5 is stronger than regular wine.
    - potato3732842 1y ago
      That's exactly the point. It's a middle ground ABV where there aren't a ton of products and below which are mostly fermented beverages and above which is distilled liquor.
- constantcrying 1y ago
  I was talking about Germany.
- jonasdegendt 1y ago
  Belgium as well.
- smoe 1y ago
  In Switzerland, it is 16 for beer and wine, and 18 for spirits (or drinks that contain spirits, like "alcopops", even if they have a low ABV). I think Austria and Germany are the same.
- lupusreal 1y ago
  Most US states, last I checked. Note: drinking age, not age to buy alcohol. Usually there's some rule about parental consent or only at home.
tokioyoyo 1y ago
Do you remember yourself at the age of 16?
- constantcrying 1y ago
  Sure.

closewith 1y ago

In a very real way, adolescents rise to the responsibilities given to them. Usually teenagers that need modulating is a reflection on their upbringing rather than any innate flaw.

CalRobert 1y ago

Yes, they can be fully functioning young adults if not raised terribly

Ekaros 1y ago
And what percentage of entire population of them is not raised terribly?