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Everybody wins? No, the Earth loses, and then we lose. It's happening faster than you think.

• toomuchtodo 14y ago
  Look, I'm an environmentalist (I fund projects that help pay for inholdings in state parks so they transition to what we'd consider the public domain), but I'm a realist as well. People need mobility. Its not going away, ever. Self driving cars + electric vehicles + intelligent energy management between a large electric grid and all those vehicles is the holy grail. It's going to happen much sooner than you think.
  • thrownaway2424 14y ago
    That's a really pathetic version of a "holy grail". Real progress would mean people living in compact communities where most trips are undertaken on foot or by bicycle. Your "holy grail" is just a new coat of paint on the same deteriorating sprawl.
    • ktsmith 14y ago
      > Real progress would mean people living in compact communities where most trips are undertaken on foot or by bicycle. That sounds like an unbearably miserable existence. I don't live in a compact community will millions of other people for a reason.
      • agpen 14y ago
        Compact communities don't have to involve large populations. There are already small and medium-sized villages in Europe that have successfully converted to 100% car-free walkable spaces, and it isn't inconceivable for many existing US suburbs. You just have to move away from this design philosophy focused on strictly separating residential and commercial zones.