5 ms·

So sending someone something offensive is grounds for banning protonmail, yet the bazillion scam call centers are somehow not a problem.

methuselah_in 1y ago
In my recent history there was a email sent from peoton mail that there are bombs planted somewhere, which was fake obviously.
gigatexal 1y ago
The scam call centers are in cahoots with the government. So… yeah. They’re not going anywhere.
- marcod 1y ago
  I found watching the trailer to The Beekeper quite therapeutic for my scammy call center dislike (it's the best part of the movie imho). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHKn-yDCE2w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHKn-yDCE2w
  - gigatexal 1y ago
    The whole film is good if a bit over the top.
    - FirmwareBurner 1y ago
      A Jason Statham movie over the top?! No way!
    - harvey9 1y ago
      I watch Jason Statham movies _because_ they're over the top.
      - gigatexal 1y ago
        Exactly. I misspoke. Praise be the name of Statham hah
lawik 1y ago
A bit reductionist perhaps. I assume the reason they are pushung it further is that they didn't submit to the police requesting information. Good on them for not cooperating but this is the lever a nation can pull in response.
- spwa4 1y ago
  That reasoning only makes sense if the scam callcenters DO cooperate with Indian police/court and the state is actively happy with scam center responses (and so with their business). Because you can be 1000% sure they got sued. So you're saying the same thing, just a more polite. You're still saying that the Indian government cooperates with scam call centers.
  - southernplaces7 1y ago
    >That reasoning only makes sense if the scam callcenters DO cooperate with Indian police/court Yes, or the obvious, that their ringleaders pay hefty bribes up the government food chain, as is common in many, many countries with organized crime activity. Protonmail presumably didn't do any such thing, aside from also refusing to cooperate legally. Either way, shame to see India going down this road of censoring X and Y or random snooping for reasons of political expediency.
- Vaslo 1y ago
  Not reductionist at all. A country so steeped in corruption that even all its natural advantages (lots of English speakers, big population, low wages) can’t compete with China. They (their government specifically) needs to get their act together in the 21st century.
seesawtron 1y ago
I think the main reason to ban was that the email provider refused to share identity of the sender. Still doesn't justify the actions
whalesalad 1y ago
This is what happens when boomers run the government.
rldjbpin 1y ago
> yet the bazillion scam call centers are somehow not a problem. the local population is also in the blast radius of scam calls, and is recognized by the government as well. so much so that one receives a disclaimer voice message before getting connected to a call every now and then. robocalls are also a problem the states continue to deal with, so it is easier said than done about such cat-and-mouse issues. > So sending someone something offensive is grounds for banning it took a whole lawsuit to come to this ruling. in vast majority of cases, people and businesses do not resort to approaching the courts for things such as this. especially given the backlog and time/resource costs associated with the whole ordeal. the plaintiff went through the effort, which is quite impressive to be honest.
subscribed 1y ago
That means scam is the supported, national policy. Seeing their unwavering support for Putler this is at least consistent with the pariah states like Iran and North Korea.

methuselah_in 1y ago

In my recent history there was a email sent from peoton mail that there are bombs planted somewhere, which was fake obviously.

gigatexal 1y ago

The scam call centers are in cahoots with the government. So… yeah. They’re not going anywhere.

marcod 1y ago
I found watching the trailer to The Beekeper quite therapeutic for my scammy call center dislike (it's the best part of the movie imho). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHKn-yDCE2w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHKn-yDCE2w
- gigatexal 1y ago
  The whole film is good if a bit over the top.
  - FirmwareBurner 1y ago
    A Jason Statham movie over the top?! No way!
  - harvey9 1y ago
    I watch Jason Statham movies _because_ they're over the top.
    - gigatexal 1y ago
      Exactly. I misspoke. Praise be the name of Statham hah

lawik 1y ago

A bit reductionist perhaps. I assume the reason they are pushung it further is that they didn't submit to the police requesting information. Good on them for not cooperating but this is the lever a nation can pull in response.

spwa4 1y ago
That reasoning only makes sense if the scam callcenters DO cooperate with Indian police/court and the state is actively happy with scam center responses (and so with their business). Because you can be 1000% sure they got sued. So you're saying the same thing, just a more polite. You're still saying that the Indian government cooperates with scam call centers.
- southernplaces7 1y ago
  >That reasoning only makes sense if the scam callcenters DO cooperate with Indian police/court Yes, or the obvious, that their ringleaders pay hefty bribes up the government food chain, as is common in many, many countries with organized crime activity. Protonmail presumably didn't do any such thing, aside from also refusing to cooperate legally. Either way, shame to see India going down this road of censoring X and Y or random snooping for reasons of political expediency.
Vaslo 1y ago
Not reductionist at all. A country so steeped in corruption that even all its natural advantages (lots of English speakers, big population, low wages) can’t compete with China. They (their government specifically) needs to get their act together in the 21st century.

seesawtron 1y ago

I think the main reason to ban was that the email provider refused to share identity of the sender. Still doesn't justify the actions

whalesalad 1y ago

This is what happens when boomers run the government.

rldjbpin 1y ago

> yet the bazillion scam call centers are somehow not a problem. the local population is also in the blast radius of scam calls, and is recognized by the government as well. so much so that one receives a disclaimer voice message before getting connected to a call every now and then. robocalls are also a problem the states continue to deal with, so it is easier said than done about such cat-and-mouse issues. > So sending someone something offensive is grounds for banning it took a whole lawsuit to come to this ruling. in vast majority of cases, people and businesses do not resort to approaching the courts for things such as this. especially given the backlog and time/resource costs associated with the whole ordeal. the plaintiff went through the effort, which is quite impressive to be honest.

subscribed 1y ago

That means scam is the supported, national policy. Seeing their unwavering support for Putler this is at least consistent with the pariah states like Iran and North Korea.