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The funny thing is that I've owned Gen 3 FSD for five years now and only in the last few months has it gotten noticeably better. It's actually respectable at dr

The funny thing is that I've owned Gen 3 FSD for five years now and only in the last few months has it gotten noticeably better. It's actually respectable at driving around my city now, can handle roundabouts, make turns, etc.

FireBeyond 1y ago
> It's actually respectable at driving around my city now, can handle roundabouts, make turns, etc. This year for sure, guys, for real this time! -- Elon
moeadham 1y ago
lol the bar is so low
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shreezus 1y ago
I have noticed the same - Tesla FSD has improved remarkably in the last couple of versions, to the point where it almost never requires interventions. That said, I still don't "trust" FSD to the point where I could comfortably be in the backseat taking a nap just yet. 99% is not "good enough" for something as critical as driving.
- cryptoegorophy 1y ago
  I actually started to trust V12. V11 was a complete joke vaporware. V12 is a complete game changer that actually drives on par if not better than human. Not a tesla stock holder(all of it is a scam per my retarded opinion), but I am now more than confident that they will start doing self driving this year. Maybe isolated and with some remote interventions here and there, but it feels on par with Waymo. My friend was just testing Waymo and by his words it is not as aggressive (human like) like Tesla on the road where you need to assert yourself to merge.
  - senordevnyc 1y ago
    I’ve been reading this comment for years, just with version numbers changed. I expect in two years I’ll be hearing that V14 sucked, but now with v15, actual level 4 FSD is just around the bend!
    - peddling-brink 1y ago
      Probably, but what they are saying is true. It recently went from uncomfortable verging on unsafe, to moderately comfortable.
- lotsofpulp 1y ago
  > That said, I still don't "trust" FSD to the point where I could comfortably be in the backseat taking a nap just yet. 99% is not "good enough" for something as critical as driving. You should only trust it after Tesla accepts full liability when FSD is enabled.
timewizard 1y ago
The funny thing is that a nearly perfect template of your comment appears on nearly every post which includes a criticism of FSD. It's always magically "just recently got better!" As well as "being able to do some selected basic driving despite being called FULL self drive."
- xur17 1y ago
  Maybe because it is true?
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  - JumpCrisscross 1y ago
    > Maybe because it is true? It reeks of manual fitting. Tesla surveys an area and makes manual adjustments that keep the system from misbehaving for a while until something changes and then it’s back to shit.
    - xur17 1y ago
      There is definitely some amount of that. On each training run it gets better at some things, worse at others (this is mostly limited to its lane handling more recently). And in the 12 months I've had the car, it has gotten noticeably better maybe 2 times. Once last year, and then once in February. After the iteration last year, it drove fairly well, but I still had to intervene once or twice per trip. Now I make it through half of my trips without intervening, and when I do intervene it tends to be to avoid embarrassment vs safety (not committing, wrong lane for an upcoming turn, etc). Given how ai is advancing, I am pretty confident they will get this working fully autonomously with just vision, it's just a question of when.
  - xmprt 1y ago
    If it's true now then it means it was false before. Unless the claim is that every few months there's a noticeable spike in capabilities however the grandparent commenter seems to claim otherwise (ie, that only recently did it improve).
reneretord 1y ago
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gamblor956 1y ago
The funny thing is that just this weekend FSD was in the news for a crash that put a young man in a coma. But when the usual outcome is death, i suppose a coma is an improvement.

FireBeyond 1y ago

> It's actually respectable at driving around my city now, can handle roundabouts, make turns, etc. This year for sure, guys, for real this time! -- Elon

moeadham 1y ago

lol the bar is so low

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shreezus 1y ago

I have noticed the same - Tesla FSD has improved remarkably in the last couple of versions, to the point where it almost never requires interventions. That said, I still don't "trust" FSD to the point where I could comfortably be in the backseat taking a nap just yet. 99% is not "good enough" for something as critical as driving.

cryptoegorophy 1y ago
I actually started to trust V12. V11 was a complete joke vaporware. V12 is a complete game changer that actually drives on par if not better than human. Not a tesla stock holder(all of it is a scam per my retarded opinion), but I am now more than confident that they will start doing self driving this year. Maybe isolated and with some remote interventions here and there, but it feels on par with Waymo. My friend was just testing Waymo and by his words it is not as aggressive (human like) like Tesla on the road where you need to assert yourself to merge.
- senordevnyc 1y ago
  I’ve been reading this comment for years, just with version numbers changed. I expect in two years I’ll be hearing that V14 sucked, but now with v15, actual level 4 FSD is just around the bend!
  - peddling-brink 1y ago
    Probably, but what they are saying is true. It recently went from uncomfortable verging on unsafe, to moderately comfortable.
lotsofpulp 1y ago
> That said, I still don't "trust" FSD to the point where I could comfortably be in the backseat taking a nap just yet. 99% is not "good enough" for something as critical as driving. You should only trust it after Tesla accepts full liability when FSD is enabled.

timewizard 1y ago

The funny thing is that a nearly perfect template of your comment appears on nearly every post which includes a criticism of FSD. It's always magically "just recently got better!" As well as "being able to do some selected basic driving despite being called FULL self drive."

xur17 1y ago
Maybe because it is true?
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- JumpCrisscross 1y ago
  > Maybe because it is true? It reeks of manual fitting. Tesla surveys an area and makes manual adjustments that keep the system from misbehaving for a while until something changes and then it’s back to shit.
  - xur17 1y ago
    There is definitely some amount of that. On each training run it gets better at some things, worse at others (this is mostly limited to its lane handling more recently). And in the 12 months I've had the car, it has gotten noticeably better maybe 2 times. Once last year, and then once in February. After the iteration last year, it drove fairly well, but I still had to intervene once or twice per trip. Now I make it through half of my trips without intervening, and when I do intervene it tends to be to avoid embarrassment vs safety (not committing, wrong lane for an upcoming turn, etc). Given how ai is advancing, I am pretty confident they will get this working fully autonomously with just vision, it's just a question of when.
- xmprt 1y ago
  If it's true now then it means it was false before. Unless the claim is that every few months there's a noticeable spike in capabilities however the grandparent commenter seems to claim otherwise (ie, that only recently did it improve).

reneretord 1y ago

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gamblor956 1y ago

The funny thing is that just this weekend FSD was in the news for a crash that put a young man in a coma. But when the usual outcome is death, i suppose a coma is an improvement.