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So how does this encourage a shift to domestic manufacturing? It's basically a reward for those who have already done what you want rather than incentivizing th

So how does this encourage a shift to domestic manufacturing? It's basically a reward for those who have already done what you want rather than incentivizing those who's behavior you'd like to change. It's a carrot for sure, but the carrot is out of reach since now you're putting financial stress on those you're hoping to bear the cost of moving onshore by giving an advantage to their competitors. It's similar to giving special status to Apple by not penalizing their China-based manufacturing, then hoping that OTHER not-too-big-to-fail companies will be able to do what Apple couldn't (manufacture at a competitively cheap price onshore) while additionally facing this unfair competition. It seems it'd be more effective to have incremental (based on % domestic manufacture & labor) rewards/penalties for those making changes rather than carve-outs for those too-big-to-fail and making competition even harder for those you are trying to incentivize. Also, never mind manufacturing - how about addressing IT offhsoring, which is something far easier for US companies to change if incentivized/penalized appropriately. Is it really domestic clothing sweatshops that we want to encourage, not domestic high-tech industry with well paying jobs, paying high taxes, and helping retain onshore talent in an area of importance to national security?

JumpCrisscross 2y ago
> how does this encourage a shift to domestic manufacturing? It doesn’t. Trump is clearly trying to negotiate these tariffs away. So they don’t incentivise moving production. Just taxing everyone but Musk.
- andreygrehov 2y ago
  Honda reported that it's shifting the production of Civic Hybrid from Mexico to Indiana. This one example alone illustrates that your statement is incorrect.
thrance 2y ago
That was yesterday's narrative, keep up! Now tariffs were a plan to pressure our allies to renegotiate their trade deals with us in our favor, and that worked great! (According to the white house (Also forget that not a single deal was made)). Oops! Scratch that, now that China won't back down on their retaliatory tariffs, they were always a tool to make China "fall back in line" or something. Yeah, destroying our own economy ought to teach them a lesson. This shit is so transparent, I'm amazed as to how 30% of the country can still endorse this clown and his circus. My mental image of the average republican voter is now that of a toddler trying to fit a square into a circle hole while drooling on themselves.
- queenkjuul 2y ago
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- joshstrange 2y ago
  > Also forget that not a single deal was made Whoa, whoa, whoa, good sir, Trump has personally made 200 deals [0] that are totally real, they just go another school. [0] https://time.com/7280114/donald-trump-2025-interview-transcript/ https://time.com/7280114/donald-trump-2025-interview-transcr...
  - bigolkevin 2y ago
    Hey now, I'll have you know that Trump just signed a deal to steal Ukraine's resources at gunpoint lest he let them be devoured by Russia. Art of the Deal!
    - HarHarVeryFunny 2y ago
      It's not really much of a deal for the US though, although I do approve of it. Essentially the deal splits covered natural resource profits between the US and Ukraine, and says that Ukraine will have to pay for future military "aid" out of their share of the proceeds. Of course Ukraine can renege on the deal in the future if they feel they no longer need the US support that it brings them. What Ukraine gains here is: - Continued military support from the US that they are now paying for - The US having skin in the game - Language in the agreement that labels Russia as the aggressor (well, duh, but it'll piss off Putin) What the US really gains is: - Ability of Trump to say he made a deal, even if it appears to be one that may prolong the war rather than end it (he's hoping MAGA voters will forget he promised to end it) - Some ongoing repayment for past and future military aid, which is entirely reasonable

JumpCrisscross 2y ago

> how does this encourage a shift to domestic manufacturing? It doesn’t. Trump is clearly trying to negotiate these tariffs away. So they don’t incentivise moving production. Just taxing everyone but Musk.

andreygrehov 2y ago
Honda reported that it's shifting the production of Civic Hybrid from Mexico to Indiana. This one example alone illustrates that your statement is incorrect.

thrance 2y ago

That was yesterday's narrative, keep up! Now tariffs were a plan to pressure our allies to renegotiate their trade deals with us in our favor, and that worked great! (According to the white house (Also forget that not a single deal was made)). Oops! Scratch that, now that China won't back down on their retaliatory tariffs, they were always a tool to make China "fall back in line" or something. Yeah, destroying our own economy ought to teach them a lesson. This shit is so transparent, I'm amazed as to how 30% of the country can still endorse this clown and his circus. My mental image of the average republican voter is now that of a toddler trying to fit a square into a circle hole while drooling on themselves.

queenkjuul 2y ago
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joshstrange 2y ago
> Also forget that not a single deal was made Whoa, whoa, whoa, good sir, Trump has personally made 200 deals [0] that are totally real, they just go another school. [0] https://time.com/7280114/donald-trump-2025-interview-transcript/ https://time.com/7280114/donald-trump-2025-interview-transcr...
- bigolkevin 2y ago
  Hey now, I'll have you know that Trump just signed a deal to steal Ukraine's resources at gunpoint lest he let them be devoured by Russia. Art of the Deal!
  - HarHarVeryFunny 2y ago
    It's not really much of a deal for the US though, although I do approve of it. Essentially the deal splits covered natural resource profits between the US and Ukraine, and says that Ukraine will have to pay for future military "aid" out of their share of the proceeds. Of course Ukraine can renege on the deal in the future if they feel they no longer need the US support that it brings them. What Ukraine gains here is: - Continued military support from the US that they are now paying for - The US having skin in the game - Language in the agreement that labels Russia as the aggressor (well, duh, but it'll piss off Putin) What the US really gains is: - Ability of Trump to say he made a deal, even if it appears to be one that may prolong the war rather than end it (he's hoping MAGA voters will forget he promised to end it) - Some ongoing repayment for past and future military aid, which is entirely reasonable