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This stuff is such a crock of shit. I cannot wait for it to be over. Does anyone have any effective strategies for moving along the end of this administration

This stuff is such a crock of shit. I cannot wait for it to be over. Does anyone have any effective strategies for moving along the end of this administration aside from law suits that fits a substantialy smaller budget and doesn’t create possible legal risk? I did start looking into municipal campaign finance reform as one angle, but that seems pretty indirect though certainly important

alabastervlog 1y ago
The best semi-realistic chance for a quick end is for Trump to follow through on all his tariff threats (he's still not enacted most of it, even after his "no really guys, at midnight [by which I mean this coming weekend, through early next month] I'm actually doing it" announcement-event he made a big deal out of) and then stick with it, and maybe also do something crazy with the Fed. Though the tariffs alone might be enough, given a (very) few months of it. Economic turmoil that affects lots of ordinary people is one of the quickest ways to end or effectively cripple a government. Following through on any of his various threatened military actions against allies & neighbors might also do it, between extreme economic disruption and people being unwilling to e.g. kill or die over war with Canada or Mexico or Denmark. Basically, escalation from him in ways that are so unacceptable & painful to voters that it gets lots of people not just upset, but angry, en masse and all at once. But also confining this to actions he's expressed intent to do (or even has said he is doing, but in fact has not yet). Doesn't necessarily have to manifest as outright civil unrest, exactly, could just mean such an overwhelming volume of pissed off phone calls and in-person confrontations with congresscritters that they finally get more afraid of voters than of Trump, and reign him in.
- johnea 1y ago
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  - AngryData 1y ago
    There hasn't ever been a state or even empire in the history of the world that is safe from the general populous opposing them. Governments and militaries do not exist for very long without a much larger economy of regular people below them supporting them. A general strike by itself can bring any nation to its knees in no time at all, which is why most governments have outlawed them. But laws don't mean shit when people stop caring about following them.
    - johnea 1y ago
      Your argument is supported by the First point in this article as well: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/28/right-defeated-same-antibodies-poles-developed-beat-communism https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/28/right-... I hope you're right...
  - soulofmischief 1y ago
    With respect, calling Trump "the cheato" is just more identity politics that is helping no one. The guy is a monster but it's hard to take posts like yours seriously. I think we can keep a higher standard of discussion here on HN than other parts of the internet and focus on policy and law, not idpol.
    - johnea 1y ago
      I can appreciate the sentiment of this criticism, and my motive is to engage in actual conversation, not trollbaiting. But, sorry, I'm just not going to type his name. And the fact is, he's a cheater, and a liar. This might be called identity politics or partisan, but I consider it an accurate statement of objectively factual information. With the 100s of thousands of voters purged from voter roles in the US in 2024, and the shit storm of fake whining leading to Jan 6, this guy is a cheater, and a liar, and a prime example of what happens when a shit talking reality TV entitled brat-child from a NYC slumlord family is elected president. I feel he should have been convicted of treason for his coup plot of Jan 6. Again, my reply is not a criticism or denial of your rebuke. I understand the encouragement to use more neutral tone, but in this case I also feel my idiom is factually accurate and conveys the reality of the moment more so that literal proper nouns.
      - soulofmischief 1y ago
        I also appreciate your thoughtful reply. I certainly am not out to police anyone's speech, just thought I'd give my perspective. I see things like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nicknames_used_by_Donald_Trump https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nicknames_used_by_Dona... and it personally feels like stooping to his level when also using such nicknames for political opponents. This is of course just a difference in opinion, and I understand your perspective as well. :)
- carterschonwald 1y ago
  Yeah, if I could roll out some sort of transparency in political advertising statute that applies to orgs with foot prints in la, Atlanta and nyc at the same time and gave a nonprofit ready to launch that provides some hosted shared platform software to the respective local municipal campaign finance offices, I think that would be an important intermediate step to force finance reform. Even if it got struck down later.
bsder 1y ago
> Does anyone have any effective strategies for moving along the end of this administration aside from law suits that fits a substantialy smaller budget and doesn’t create possible legal risk? Sign on to help fix gerrymandering in your state. A combination of redistricting commission and jungle primaries would do nicely. The big problem right now is that all the Republican congresscritters are effectively safe even with all this bullshit going on. They do not fear a general election at all--thus why none of them feel the need to engage with their constituents. Ranked-choice voting would be nice but is insufficient by itself.

alabastervlog 1y ago

The best semi-realistic chance for a quick end is for Trump to follow through on all his tariff threats (he's still not enacted most of it, even after his "no really guys, at midnight [by which I mean this coming weekend, through early next month] I'm actually doing it" announcement-event he made a big deal out of) and then stick with it, and maybe also do something crazy with the Fed. Though the tariffs alone might be enough, given a (very) few months of it. Economic turmoil that affects lots of ordinary people is one of the quickest ways to end or effectively cripple a government. Following through on any of his various threatened military actions against allies & neighbors might also do it, between extreme economic disruption and people being unwilling to e.g. kill or die over war with Canada or Mexico or Denmark. Basically, escalation from him in ways that are so unacceptable & painful to voters that it gets lots of people not just upset, but angry, en masse and all at once. But also confining this to actions he's expressed intent to do (or even has said he is doing, but in fact has not yet). Doesn't necessarily have to manifest as outright civil unrest, exactly, could just mean such an overwhelming volume of pissed off phone calls and in-person confrontations with congresscritters that they finally get more afraid of voters than of Trump, and reign him in.

johnea 1y ago
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- AngryData 1y ago
  There hasn't ever been a state or even empire in the history of the world that is safe from the general populous opposing them. Governments and militaries do not exist for very long without a much larger economy of regular people below them supporting them. A general strike by itself can bring any nation to its knees in no time at all, which is why most governments have outlawed them. But laws don't mean shit when people stop caring about following them.
  - johnea 1y ago
    Your argument is supported by the First point in this article as well: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/28/right-defeated-same-antibodies-poles-developed-beat-communism https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/28/right-... I hope you're right...
- soulofmischief 1y ago
  With respect, calling Trump "the cheato" is just more identity politics that is helping no one. The guy is a monster but it's hard to take posts like yours seriously. I think we can keep a higher standard of discussion here on HN than other parts of the internet and focus on policy and law, not idpol.
  - johnea 1y ago
    I can appreciate the sentiment of this criticism, and my motive is to engage in actual conversation, not trollbaiting. But, sorry, I'm just not going to type his name. And the fact is, he's a cheater, and a liar. This might be called identity politics or partisan, but I consider it an accurate statement of objectively factual information. With the 100s of thousands of voters purged from voter roles in the US in 2024, and the shit storm of fake whining leading to Jan 6, this guy is a cheater, and a liar, and a prime example of what happens when a shit talking reality TV entitled brat-child from a NYC slumlord family is elected president. I feel he should have been convicted of treason for his coup plot of Jan 6. Again, my reply is not a criticism or denial of your rebuke. I understand the encouragement to use more neutral tone, but in this case I also feel my idiom is factually accurate and conveys the reality of the moment more so that literal proper nouns.
    - soulofmischief 1y ago
      I also appreciate your thoughtful reply. I certainly am not out to police anyone's speech, just thought I'd give my perspective. I see things like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nicknames_used_by_Donald_Trump https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nicknames_used_by_Dona... and it personally feels like stooping to his level when also using such nicknames for political opponents. This is of course just a difference in opinion, and I understand your perspective as well. :)
carterschonwald 1y ago
Yeah, if I could roll out some sort of transparency in political advertising statute that applies to orgs with foot prints in la, Atlanta and nyc at the same time and gave a nonprofit ready to launch that provides some hosted shared platform software to the respective local municipal campaign finance offices, I think that would be an important intermediate step to force finance reform. Even if it got struck down later.

bsder 1y ago

> Does anyone have any effective strategies for moving along the end of this administration aside from law suits that fits a substantialy smaller budget and doesn’t create possible legal risk? Sign on to help fix gerrymandering in your state. A combination of redistricting commission and jungle primaries would do nicely. The big problem right now is that all the Republican congresscritters are effectively safe even with all this bullshit going on. They do not fear a general election at all--thus why none of them feel the need to engage with their constituents. Ranked-choice voting would be nice but is insufficient by itself.