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By the same token, even if you accept that AI usage will incentivize additonal model trainings, that cost is diffused across hundreds of millions of users, and
by Remnant44 1y ago
By the same token, even if you accept that AI usage will incentivize additonal model trainings, that cost is diffused across hundreds of millions of users, and is not a marginal cost, so it gets further reduced on a per-chat basis the more you use AI. I don't know what the per-user environmental cost of training a model is, but that's a pretty big factor to divide energy usage by.
- spencerflem 1y agoBut irrelevant if the point is to not contribute to something that you'd rather see banned.
- Remnant44 1y agoI don't really follow this objection. Determining the actual energy usage of AI training+inference is something that is an objective reality. Whether you hate it or love it doesn't change these facts.
- spencerflem 1y agoI think LLM training is objectively bad for the environment (uses countries worth of power). I am aware than my marginal usage wouldn't change things much either way, but I don't want to encourage them regardless.
- simonw 1y agoUses countries worth of power? Training a single LLM takes a few dozen fully loaded transatlantic passenger aircraft trips worth of power. For "counties worth of power" I think you might be talking ALL data center use as a whole.