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I resent this framing as being entirely about short-sighted consumers valuing convenience. surely it has quite a bit to do with cost as well, both for the produ

I resent this framing as being entirely about short-sighted consumers valuing convenience. surely it has quite a bit to do with cost as well, both for the producer to increase their margins and also the end consumer. alot of it has to do with choice. the market presents very few non-plastic options in cases where plastic will do fine. so yes, convenience in the 'i hate to buy this plastic thing, but I dont have a week to find someone in estonia that still makes quality goods by hand and then wait for it to be shipped to me' sense

dennis_jeeves2 1y ago
>I resent this framing as being entirely about short-sighted consumers valuing convenience. Your resentment is not valid. The switch to plastics did not happen overnight. There used a lot more choices in the past. Common people increasingly chose plastics over a period of time. ( or rather were lazy) Your resentment can be rephrased as - "I cannot come to terms with the fact that common people really are that stupid". Freedoms in various forms are generally not taken away overnight. As they say "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance"
- ziddoap 1y ago
  Their resentment is completely valid.
  - kylebenzle 1y ago
    Did you read comment above because yours does not not address the response at all (and you are wrong in that context). Again, dude above is saying clearly that the issue is man man, we did this, it's not a natural disaster, so there is no one to blame but ourselves, pretending it was an outside power that did this to you is not valid.
    - ziddoap 1y ago
      >Did you read comment above I sure did, thanks. Did you read convolvatron's? Because "pretending it was an outside power that did this to you" is not what they said.