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It's my understanding that o3 was trained on multimodal data, including imagery. Is it unreasonable to assume its training data includes images of these exact l
by OtherShrezzing 1y ago
It's my understanding that o3 was trained on multimodal data, including imagery. Is it unreasonable to assume its training data includes images of these exact locations and features? GeoGuesser uses Google Maps, and Google Maps purchases most of its imagery from third-parties these days. If those third parties aren't also selling to all the big AI companies, I'd be very surprised.
- Yenrabbit 1y agoTry it with your own personal photos. It is scarily good!
- rafram 1y agoThat's true for heavily photographed urban areas. I've tried it on some desert photos (even at identifiable points with human structures) and it basically just guesses a random trailhead in Joshua Tree and makes up a BS explanation for why it matches.
- kube-system 1y agoI have had surprisingly good luck with beach photos that don’t have much beyond dunes and vegetation in them
- walthamstow 1y agoGood luck meaning o3 guessed it right or wrong?
- kube-system 1y agoo3 made very accurate guesses, and had plausible explanations for the features it analyzed
- throwaway0123_5 1y agoFor cities and landscapes in the US it is scary good. I tried about twenty photos from (mostly rural) Central and South America and it is much less effective there w/o a well-known landmark to go off of (likely unsurprisingly). In four cases it got the wrong continent entirely, and in one case guessed as far away as India.
- GaggiX 1y agoIt does work well with images you have taken, not just Geoguessr: https://simonwillison.net/2025/Apr/26/o3-photo-locations/ https://simonwillison.net/2025/Apr/26/o3-photo-locations/
- thi2 1y ago> I’m confident it didn’t cheat and look at the EXIF data on the photograph, because if it had cheated it wouldn’t have guessed Cambria first. Hm no way to be sure though, would be nice to do another run without Exif information
- seabass 1y agoHe did, by rerunning it on a screenshot of the image
- pests 1y ago> Google Maps purchases most of its imagery from third-parties these days Maps maybe, but Streetview? Rainbolt just did a video with two Maps PMs recently and it sounds like they still source all their street view themselves considering the special camera and car needed, etc.
- mikeocool 1y agoMy understanding is you're correct -- Google still captures a lot of their own street view imagery. Though there are other companies that capture the same sorts of imagery and license it. TomTom imagery is used on the Bing Maps street view clone.
- OtherShrezzing 1y agoMaybe the end-user isn't Google Maps, but TomTom have a pretty comprehensive street-view-ish product for private buyers like car companies, Bing and Apple Maps called MoMa. I'd be surprised if this building[0] wasn't included in their dataset from every road-side angle possible, alongside every piece of locational metadata imaginable, and I'd be surprised if that dataset hasn't made it into OpenAI's training data - especially when TomTom's relationship to Microsoft, and Microsoft's relationship to OpenAI, is taken into account. [0] https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/sampatt/media@main/posts/2025-04-26-geoguessr/image/2025-04-27-17-54.png https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/sampatt/media@main/posts/2025-04...
- shpx 1y agoYou can upload your own panoramic images to Street View, people do this for hiking trails. But I'm sure 99% of streetview imagery is Google-sourced and Geoguessr might not even use user-submitted imagery. https://www.google.com/streetview/contribute/ https://www.google.com/streetview/contribute/
- thrance 1y agoA machine that's read every book ever written, seen every photo ever taken, visited every streets on Earth... That feels a little frightening.