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Have you checked out Arc? I switched the other day and their approach to somewhat-permanent "tabs" is interesting. At first I missed bookmarks but then I realiz

Have you checked out Arc? I switched the other day and their approach to somewhat-permanent "tabs" is interesting. At first I missed bookmarks but then I realized that what they were doing is actually closer to how I want to use the browser.

cassianoleal 2y ago
If you like Arc but would prefer if it was open source and/or non-Blink/Chromium, Zen is based on Firefox but with an Arc-like interface. https://zen-browser.app/ https://zen-browser.app/
- imcritic 2y ago
  Poor UI, judging by the screenshots on that page. Another piece of software that treats users as imbeciles in dire need of being saved from "clutter".
  - cassianoleal 2y ago
    I think you missed the "If you like Arc" at the very beginning of my post. If you don't like Arc, then Zen is absolutely not for you. And that's fine.
  - jofzar 2y ago
    It's pretty much a 1:1 copy of arc, which IMO has the best browser UI/UX I have used.
- ibll 2y ago
  It copies a lot of Arc, but the core tab organisation features from Arc are significantly lacking. Last I checked (a few weeks ago), Zen didn't even have a keybind for pinning a tab. It fully keeps the Firefox bookmarks and prioritises those all over the UI. The Arc tab system is meant to entirely replace all of that. It just makes Zen feel very shallow in comparison. It's just firefox with some goofy Arc features mashed into the front without care. Arc (macOS) is ridiculously good though. It's become difficult/impossible for me to use another browser happily the past few years. I wish they were focused on it instead of their mediocre AI browser project. They decided to claim Arc windows was out of beta when it's still vastly worse than the mac version in just about every sense. But at least they got the core tab management features locked down (from what I've heard, I don't have a windows machine to try it on.)
  - eddyg 2y ago
    What are you going to do now that Arc development has stopped and The Browser Company is pivoting? (I'm also a big fan of Arc, especially the Air Traffic Control feature to keep certain sites organized into Spaces.)
    - barbazoo 2y ago
      Thanks for pointing this out, I didn't know that. However, at least > Miller said that Arc "isn't going anywhere" and would continue to receive stability updates and bug fixes https://www.androidauthority.com/the-browser-company-planning-arc-alternative-3494362/ https://www.androidauthority.com/the-browser-company-plannin...

cassianoleal 2y ago

If you like Arc but would prefer if it was open source and/or non-Blink/Chromium, Zen is based on Firefox but with an Arc-like interface. https://zen-browser.app/ https://zen-browser.app/

imcritic 2y ago
Poor UI, judging by the screenshots on that page. Another piece of software that treats users as imbeciles in dire need of being saved from "clutter".
- cassianoleal 2y ago
  I think you missed the "If you like Arc" at the very beginning of my post. If you don't like Arc, then Zen is absolutely not for you. And that's fine.
- jofzar 2y ago
  It's pretty much a 1:1 copy of arc, which IMO has the best browser UI/UX I have used.
ibll 2y ago
It copies a lot of Arc, but the core tab organisation features from Arc are significantly lacking. Last I checked (a few weeks ago), Zen didn't even have a keybind for pinning a tab. It fully keeps the Firefox bookmarks and prioritises those all over the UI. The Arc tab system is meant to entirely replace all of that. It just makes Zen feel very shallow in comparison. It's just firefox with some goofy Arc features mashed into the front without care. Arc (macOS) is ridiculously good though. It's become difficult/impossible for me to use another browser happily the past few years. I wish they were focused on it instead of their mediocre AI browser project. They decided to claim Arc windows was out of beta when it's still vastly worse than the mac version in just about every sense. But at least they got the core tab management features locked down (from what I've heard, I don't have a windows machine to try it on.)
- eddyg 2y ago
  What are you going to do now that Arc development has stopped and The Browser Company is pivoting? (I'm also a big fan of Arc, especially the Air Traffic Control feature to keep certain sites organized into Spaces.)
  - barbazoo 2y ago
    Thanks for pointing this out, I didn't know that. However, at least > Miller said that Arc "isn't going anywhere" and would continue to receive stability updates and bug fixes https://www.androidauthority.com/the-browser-company-planning-arc-alternative-3494362/ https://www.androidauthority.com/the-browser-company-plannin...