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It is hostile and political, do they break down their prices for other added costs, i.e. inflation, higher taxes? Never seen it before, so why do it here then.
by roman_soldier 1y ago
It is hostile and political, do they break down their prices for other added costs, i.e. inflation, higher taxes? Never seen it before, so why do it here then.
- 34679 1y agoYes, they do. Taxes and shipping are separate line items on every Amazon invoice.
- SirMaster 1y agoMaybe I am missing something but sales tax is something that the seller pays. It's a % of the retail price and so they collect it from the customer, so it's added in and shown to the customer. Tariffs are paid by the importer and I would think that they would put that into the price of the good itself based on their desired profit margins etc. How would Amazon even know what to put for the tariff amount? It's not a % of the retail price, it's a % of the import price which the seller doesn't typically share with the end customer.
- PaulDavisThe1st 1y ago"What it costs now" - "What it cost in March" = "Tariff cost" The math is not perfect, but to a good approximation (certainly a far better approximation than the administration's insane computation of international "tariffs") that will indicate the cost to the consumer of Trump's tariff policies. So yes, if the importer eats a significant chunk of the tariff cost and doesn't pass it on to Amazon/the consumer, the computation will reflect that (as it should). And if they don't, it will reflect that too (as it should).
- roman_soldier 1y agoHave they shown tariffs before on their prices?, I don't think the US had zero tariffs before Trump increased them
- PaulDavisThe1st 1y agoHow does that matter if the purpose is to show the effect of recent, chaotic, ill-conceived policies of the current administration?
- roman_soldier 1y ago"recent, chaotic, ill-conceived policies of the current administration" So it's not political?
- PaulDavisThe1st 1y agoRecent: indisuputable matter of fact. Chaotic: one might disagree on the magnitude of flip-flopping that can be labelled "chaotic", but the unpredictable on-again, off-again nature of the policies is well-described by "chaotic" I think. Ill-conceived: if you can find me one serious economist who agrees with the Trump tariff policy (i.e. agrees on the goal, the means and the ends, and the match between them), I'll consider retracting this. Otherwise, yep, ill-conceived describes imposing tariffs without any apparent understanding of how they work or their likely effects. Also, did I say it's not political at any point?
- roman_soldier 1y ago> Also, did I say it's not political at any point? Then we agree!
- sa-code 1y agoDisagree, as a consumer I want to know this
- michaelt 1y agoAs I understand things, in the US it’s very common to list things like sales tax separately, yes.
- blitzar 1y agoLike sales tax? Yeah they do. If you buy something from not your local amazon and there are import taxes - yeah they show that too.
- roman_soldier 1y agoHave they shown tariffs before on their prices?, I don't think the US had zero tariffs before Trump increased them
- rsynnott 1y agoPreviously the US's effective average tariffs were in the 1.8% range, and a big contributor there was things like vehicles and agricultural products (ie things that people were unlikely to buy on Amazon). Most developed countries are in the 1-2% range; except for the post-Trump II US, effective tariffs in double digits are basically just for extremely poor countries and weird microstates. They just weren't a significant enough part of the cost base that they'd be particularly worth highlighting.
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- harmon 1y agoAs these tariffs are objectively likely to drive up costs, hurt user demand, and lower revenue for the company, I would argue that they have a duty to their shareholders and other stakeholders to push back against them and not be neutral. It is an action driven by business concerns rather than politics. Also yes, taxes are listed as a separate line item.
- UncleMeat 1y agoInflation is not an input to price. It is an output of price. It would not be meaningful to say "this portion of this price is attributable to inflation" on some product listing.
- redczar 1y agoWe are not used to seeing corporate lobbying and campaigning done so openly except when it comes to news media. Join liberals like me who oppose corporate personhood and Citizens United and fight corporate political power.
- thinkingtoilet 1y agoSo a customer should not know how much taxes are on an item they buy? How would one show inflation? What are you even talking about? Just say you're a MAGA fanatic and that everything Trump does and says is good and we can stop pretending to have a debate here.
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- thinkingtoilet 1y agoThat made sense. Excellent response.
- platevoltage 1y agoIt is hostile and political. More reason for them to do it.