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Canadians give Liberals 4th mandate as Carney leads party to minority win

• mikerg87 2y ago
  The challenge now is to do enough to prevent Alberta and Saskatchewan from separating from Canada.
  • woleium 2y ago
    People always say this, but how would they replace the federal funds?
    • canucker2016 2y ago
      Carney did grow up in Edmonton, AB. Maybe that has some pull back West.
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  • rchaud 2y ago
    The land on which those provinces sit are based on treaties signed between the First Nations and the government of Canada, not with the provinces, so that settles that.
    • xemoka 2y ago
      This. Exactly. Alberta and Saskatchewan did not exist as independent colonies. Treaties were with the federal government. This is a non-starter and will never happen as WEXIT separatists dream it could.
  • bathtub365 2y ago
    Danielle Smith’s hands will be full with a healthcare contracts scandal that looks like it may be really bad, and also the embarrassment of aligning herself with a foreign dictator who wants to take Canada over.
• mmastrac 2y ago
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  • ourmandave 2y ago
    Instead of the headline Canada Holds Elections, we got While Canadians Vote, TRUMP Suggests They Vote For Him and They Become the 51st State At least it's over and we can get back to the Emperor's plan to annex Greenland.
  • lesuorac 2y ago
    Give it time. The amount of Canadians that think they have a first amendment right to free speech is growing. The only way to avoid this is going to be actually doing a good job of lowering income equality and lowering living costs (as % of income). (Take your pick as what counts as the 1st Canadian amendment but it's not free speech [1]) [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amendments_to_the_Constitution_of_Canada https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amendments_to_the_Constitution...
    • dorfsmay 2y ago
      Typo? Did you mean lowering income inequality?
  • GamerUncle 2y ago
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    • pjc50 2y ago
      > The fact they could arrest you for not letting your kids get brainwashed .. can someone decode this from alt-right to the actual events please?
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• 2OEH8eoCRo0 2y ago
  Congrats Canada!
• ainiriand 2y ago
  Hands down my favourite Beatle.
• voidfunc 2y ago
  If Canada is smart they'll figure out a way to incentivize businesses and workers from knowledge economies like the coastal blue states to move there. I'd love to live and work in Canada but I'm not taking a massive pay cut to do it.
  • david-gpu 2y ago
    I refused moving from Canada to the US multiple times because the extra pay wasn't worth the downsides. There is value in things that are hard to translate into simple numbers like money. And that's as an immigrant to Canada.
    • MrGinkgo 2y ago
      Curious, since I know little about Canada. What were the downsides for you?
      • jsbisviewtiful 2y ago
        Living in Canada gives access to universal healthcare that won't bankrupt you if you need medical help, whereas in the US getting sick can financially collapse everything you've worked for - all so some CEO can have their yacht. Chances are also significantly higher in the US that you will be shot dead in a grocery store or movie theater.
        • snapplebobapple 2y ago
          Maybe it's because I've lived in Canada for 4+ decades now, but I wouldn't exactly call what we have access to universal healthcare. It's hard to find a family doctor, if you do find a family doctor, whether you can get reasonable appointment access, is highly dependent on the doctor and not always available. If you do get an appointment and you need to see a specialist or other service that needs a referral you often face a substantial wait list. It's nothing like what it was in the 80's and 90's where appointments were always easily same day or next day and wait lists were short or non existent. To me this is just broken in the opposite way that america's system is broken. Also, the gun thing makes me think people don't understand statistics. The number of gun related deaths in the usa was 14.6 per 100k people in 2021 and around 0.5 per 100k in Canada, so yes it's drastically higher in the usa but that ignores that 60% of those are suicides and it ignores the highly geographically concentrated nature of the problem.You avoid a handful of neighborhoods and think happy thoughts and your gun death risk basically disappears. unadjusted its a ~1% risk over an 80 year lifetime in the USA vs 0.04% in canada. When you take into account reality and realize you aren't suicidal and you aren't going to visit or live in that tiny handful of extremely high risk neighborhoods the USA risk also drops to almost zero, even over a lifetime.
• david-gpu 2y ago
  Popularity polls always showed Polievre as a deeply unliked candidate, even within Conservative voters. It seems like many Conservatives remained loyal to their party while pinching their noses at Polievre, who lost in his own riding. He has not announced his resignation as party leader yet, though. The leader of the social democratic party NDP did announce his resignation last night as he also lost his seat in parliament. Lots of change in the upcoming weeks and months.
  • rchaud 2y ago
    > Polievre, who lost in his own riding. He has not announced his resignation as party leader yet, though His campaign against Mark Carney came down to his argument that Carney was not a legitimate PM due to being appointed by his party following Trudeau's resignation, rather than by competing and winning a parliamentary seat in an election. Now the tables have turned: Carney has won his seat in the election, Polievre has lost his. Will Polievre hold himself to the same standard he held Carney to?
    • david-gpu 2y ago
      That was always a dumb argument. First, because our laws do not require the prime minister to be a member of parliament. Second, because Carney called for an election right away after becoming PM, which is a sensible thing to do anyway.
• canucker2016 2y ago
  from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Canadian_federal_election https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Canadian_federal_election Before Election: Liberal: 152 Conservative: 120 Bloc Quebecois: 33 NDP: 24 Green: 2 Election Results: Liberal: 155 (+13 leading) == 168 Conservative: 133 (+11 leading) == 144 Bloc Quebecois: 21 (+2 leading) == 23 NDP: 5 (+2 leading) == 7 Green: 1
• bko 2y ago
  US perspective. This is a surprising win for an incumbent party. Whenever I look at basic life issues in Canada I'm blown away. Somehow salaries for engineers are about half what they are in the US, but real estate prices are comparable in large cities. And nation wide the national come price is 678k compared to around 420k in US. Who does this work for? The liberals have moderated a bit. I remember seeing an ad saying that if elected they would remove trade barriers between Canadian provinces, which is pretty crazy that they exist in the first place. Free trade within your borders should be the starting ante for a country Finally, there was the increase in immigration which no one really seemed to ask for, that they're also pulling back now due to backlash. Anyway, I don't really see the tide stemming but who knows. I can't remember a time in the US where an incumbent party has won on so many negatives.
  • canucker2016 2y ago
    When Carney became a candidate for the Liberal Party leader, he seemed to mimic most of the Conservative talking points, i.e. get rid of carbon tax, etc. But the 51st state/tariff talk from the south overrode whatever problems Canadians seemed to bitch about daily in 2024. The immigration increase was a surprise for most Canadians - increase immigration by 4x without corresponding increase in support costs???
  • incomingpain 2y ago
    >This is a surprising win for an incumbent party. Extremely rare and improbable. It took the left wing of Canada to intentionally sabotage themselves and shift politics to the right. A bizarre choice with no benefit to themselves. Canada is no longer left wing I guess? >Whenever I look at basic life issues in Canada I'm blown away. Somehow salaries for engineers are about half what they are in the US, but real estate prices are comparable in large cities. And nation wide the national come price is 678k compared to around 420k in US. Who does this work for? Senior IT positions are more like 3x the salary in the USA. Housing is much worse than that. Shack in Canada, Mansion in the USA for the same pricing. Housing supply is greatly reduced by governments, housing demand is greatly increased by the federal government. >The liberals have moderated a bit. I remember seeing an ad saying that if elected they would remove trade barriers between Canadian provinces, which is pretty crazy that they exist in the first place. Free trade within your borders should be the starting ante for a country Mulroney, Chretien, and Harper had significant majority governments who attempted multiple times to remove those trade barriers. there's a 0% chance Carney will be able to remove these barriers. In fact I predict more trade barriers will be going up soon. It's not typically a huge problem because Canada is ridiculously wide. We are 2 hours from the USA for trade; but multiple days away from trading interprovincially. So we traditionally just trade with the usa, but TRUMP. >Finally, there was the increase in immigration which no one really seemed to ask for, that they're also pulling back now due to backlash. Basically didnt even come up in the election. It was one of the censored subjects. >Anyway, I don't really see the tide stemming but who knows. I can't remember a time in the US where an incumbent party has won on so many negatives. Consider the media. The incumbents gives billions of $ to the media who write puff pieces. China interfered in our election to benefit the liberals. The state media wrote "Carney being targeted by china" but that is to say Carney was being targeted with SUPPORT.
• incomingpain 2y ago
  Mark Carney is most popular Prime Minister in history of Canada. 1.5 million more votes than anyone ever before. Liberals at 45 year high. Pierre Poilievre(leader of conservatives) in a safe conservative riding lost. Bucking multiple political science theories. Conservatives at 37 year high, gaining significantly in the election. Jagmeet Singh(leader of NDP) resigns after losing the NDP party status and his own riding; at their debt level they likely stop existing as a party. Green Party only earnt 1 seat; Elizabeth May's riding. Her co-leader came in 5th place in his riding. Very significant national unity crisis is now happening. Left wing no longer exists in Canada. Carney to immediately start negotiating new trade and security agreement with Trump. Which is significantly more than CUSMA ever was. Estimated to add ~150 billion additional to the deficit. Trudeau said Canada would stop existing as a country if this happened.
  • xemoka 2y ago
    Canada's population grew by over 3 million since the last election. So yes, the parties will get more votes. That combined with the utter collapse of the NDP and Green party votes, meant more vote share goes to the Liberals and Conservatives. The left wing has been rotting out from under the NDP's guidance for years. They are no longer a grass roots party and are primarily controlled through their central offices (both federally and provincially). Provincially the NDPs have been moving towards the center to govern for years as well, just look at the Alberta and BC NDPs and their policies/actions.