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This sounds like a great way for big employers to require what would otherwise have been on-the-job training be completed in advance of even applying. Which is

This sounds like a great way for big employers to require what would otherwise have been on-the-job training be completed in advance of even applying. Which is undoubtedly fantastic for employers, but probably less so for the unemployed.

marcuswestin 14y ago
I believe this creates a centralized venue for prospective employees to show their motivation and fit for the job. That sounds like a great benefit to me!
forensic 14y ago
On-the-job training is already dead. LearnUp, by recognizing it first, will profit as the middle class further disintegrates into various strata of indentured servitude. Corporations hold all the chips and so the labour force is obligated to take a paycut--but since there is a minimum wage the paycut has to come somewhere else. The market treats regulations as damage and routes around them. Instead of the paycut coming in dollars, it comes in the form of pre-application training requirements, internships, strange work hour arrangements, complicated contracting situations, etc.
- true_religion 14y ago
  On-the-job training emerged because there was no way for workers to gain certain skills they needed without working under a corporation. Sometimes the limiter was capital expenses....You couldn't go to your toolshed and train on how to work in a steel mill, so instead you got trained on the job. Sometimes the limiter was social.... such as with lawyers---they receive on the job training because you can't just graduate and start taking cases for "practice". On-the-job training will remain alive and well for people who are hiring into specialized positions (e.g. database scaling specialists, engineers for financial firms, anything to do with hardware, etc.). Why do you think it's dead?
  - scrame 14y ago
    Because highly specialized jobs are a vast minority. OP was talking about retail jobs, not "database scaling specialists".
  - forensic 14y ago
    It's very easy to train for eg steel mill work in eg community colleges. Specialized jobs can easily have their training outsourced. When a job pays >minimum wage OTJ training can be paid fr by an apprentice paycut. When a job pays close to minimum wage, this is impossible, so the OTJ training is outsourced and the employee must pay out of pocket. This amounts to a paycut--an innovation of the market in response to the artificial market distorting minimum wage.

marcuswestin 14y ago

I believe this creates a centralized venue for prospective employees to show their motivation and fit for the job. That sounds like a great benefit to me!

forensic 14y ago

On-the-job training is already dead. LearnUp, by recognizing it first, will profit as the middle class further disintegrates into various strata of indentured servitude. Corporations hold all the chips and so the labour force is obligated to take a paycut--but since there is a minimum wage the paycut has to come somewhere else. The market treats regulations as damage and routes around them. Instead of the paycut coming in dollars, it comes in the form of pre-application training requirements, internships, strange work hour arrangements, complicated contracting situations, etc.

true_religion 14y ago
On-the-job training emerged because there was no way for workers to gain certain skills they needed without working under a corporation. Sometimes the limiter was capital expenses....You couldn't go to your toolshed and train on how to work in a steel mill, so instead you got trained on the job. Sometimes the limiter was social.... such as with lawyers---they receive on the job training because you can't just graduate and start taking cases for "practice". On-the-job training will remain alive and well for people who are hiring into specialized positions (e.g. database scaling specialists, engineers for financial firms, anything to do with hardware, etc.). Why do you think it's dead?
- scrame 14y ago
  Because highly specialized jobs are a vast minority. OP was talking about retail jobs, not "database scaling specialists".
- forensic 14y ago
  It's very easy to train for eg steel mill work in eg community colleges. Specialized jobs can easily have their training outsourced. When a job pays >minimum wage OTJ training can be paid fr by an apprentice paycut. When a job pays close to minimum wage, this is impossible, so the OTJ training is outsourced and the employee must pay out of pocket. This amounts to a paycut--an innovation of the market in response to the artificial market distorting minimum wage.