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The Rust of today wouldn't be chosen over the Go of a decade ago, it is fundamentally a bad fit, for similar reasons that the already mature C++ wasn't. Java (s

The Rust of today wouldn't be chosen over the Go of a decade ago, it is fundamentally a bad fit, for similar reasons that the already mature C++ wasn't. Java (similar to C#) would've been viable mainly due to maturity and ecosystem effects, Kotlin/Native might be a contender in another half decade, sooner if the team were to shift priorities. I say this not just for Kubernetes etc., but greenfield projects today as well.

pjmlp 1y ago
Meanwhile on the field, https://deislabs.io/posts/still-rusting-one-year-later/ https://deislabs.io/posts/still-rusting-one-year-later/ I gather you are aware of Deis Labs history, Microsoft acquisition and such, do you want other CNCF companies that have pivoted into Rust?
- Yasuraka 1y ago
  More like, an attempt in the field from 2 years ago > [Warning] This project is currently not actively maintained. But there is a library by them to build containerd shims with which is maintained: https://github.com/containerd/runwasi https://github.com/containerd/runwasi Let's just entertain the idea and pretend that this is a notable project and that one would count it as DevOps tooling. Here are the top 10 across the CNCF in terms of size, courtesy of GitHub's API: C++: 3195829832 Java: 2908175049 Go: 2005598094 C: 1225503783 Python: 931070259 LLVM: 594277917 C#: 484071185 Rust: 460427159 TypeScript: 428904119 JavaScript: 273074800 This is the best-case scenario, including irrelevant categories like databases and VMMs that ought to be written in Rust (or C++). As far as Microsoft itself goes, they have a new push to ~~lock-in~~ embrace and extend cloud customers: https://blog.radapp.io/posts/2024/04/16/radius-accepted-as-cloud-native-compute-foundation-cncf-sandbox-project/ https://blog.radapp.io/posts/2024/04/16/radius-accepted-as-c... As far as recent projects that gained traction with the CNCF go, I found some nice write-ups: https://blog.palark.com/cncf-sandbox-2023-h1/ https://blog.palark.com/cncf-sandbox-2023-h1/ https://blog.palark.com/cncf-sandbox-2023-h2/ https://blog.palark.com/cncf-sandbox-2023-h2/ https://blog.palark.com/cncf-sandbox-2024-h1/ https://blog.palark.com/cncf-sandbox-2024-h1/ Go: 30 Rust: 4 (once to implement another lang) Python: 2 Java: 1 and 2 that are mixed (Go+{C,Rust}) Fun fact, one of the 30 is Eraser - by Deis Labs.

pjmlp 1y ago

Meanwhile on the field, https://deislabs.io/posts/still-rusting-one-year-later/ https://deislabs.io/posts/still-rusting-one-year-later/ I gather you are aware of Deis Labs history, Microsoft acquisition and such, do you want other CNCF companies that have pivoted into Rust?

Yasuraka 1y ago
More like, an attempt in the field from 2 years ago > [Warning] This project is currently not actively maintained. But there is a library by them to build containerd shims with which is maintained: https://github.com/containerd/runwasi https://github.com/containerd/runwasi Let's just entertain the idea and pretend that this is a notable project and that one would count it as DevOps tooling. Here are the top 10 across the CNCF in terms of size, courtesy of GitHub's API: C++: 3195829832 Java: 2908175049 Go: 2005598094 C: 1225503783 Python: 931070259 LLVM: 594277917 C#: 484071185 Rust: 460427159 TypeScript: 428904119 JavaScript: 273074800 This is the best-case scenario, including irrelevant categories like databases and VMMs that ought to be written in Rust (or C++). As far as Microsoft itself goes, they have a new push to ~~lock-in~~ embrace and extend cloud customers: https://blog.radapp.io/posts/2024/04/16/radius-accepted-as-cloud-native-compute-foundation-cncf-sandbox-project/ https://blog.radapp.io/posts/2024/04/16/radius-accepted-as-c... As far as recent projects that gained traction with the CNCF go, I found some nice write-ups: https://blog.palark.com/cncf-sandbox-2023-h1/ https://blog.palark.com/cncf-sandbox-2023-h1/ https://blog.palark.com/cncf-sandbox-2023-h2/ https://blog.palark.com/cncf-sandbox-2023-h2/ https://blog.palark.com/cncf-sandbox-2024-h1/ https://blog.palark.com/cncf-sandbox-2024-h1/ Go: 30 Rust: 4 (once to implement another lang) Python: 2 Java: 1 and 2 that are mixed (Go+{C,Rust}) Fun fact, one of the 30 is Eraser - by Deis Labs.