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Packed Data Support in Haskell
- nine_k 2y ago> Introducing the ‘packed’ data format, a binary format that allows using data as it is, without the need for a deserialisation step. A notable perk of this format is that traversals on packed trees is proven to be faster than on ‘unpacked’ trees: as the fields of data structures are inlines, there are no pointer jumps, thus making the most of the L1 cache. That is, a "memory dump -> zero-copy memory read" of a subgraph of Haskell objects, allowing to pass such trees / subgraphs directly over a network. Slightly reminiscent of Cap'n Proto.
- 90s_dev 2y agoWe are always reinventing wheels. If we didn't, they'd all still be made of wood.
- Zolomon 2y agoThey mention this in the article.
- spockz 2y agoIt reminds me more of flat buffers though. Does protobuf also have zero allocation (beyond initial ingestion) and no pointer jumps?
- cstrahan 2y agoNo, one example of why being variable sized integers. See https://protobuf.dev/programming-guides/encoding/ https://protobuf.dev/programming-guides/encoding/
- carterschonwald 2y agoOne thing that sometimes gets tricky in these things is handling Sub term sharing. I wonder how they implemented it.
- tlb 2y ago> the serialised version of the data is usually bigger than its in-memory representation I don’t think this is common. Perhaps for arrays of floats serialized as JSON or something. But I can’t think of a case where binary serialization is bigger. Data types like maps are necessarily larger in memory to support fast lookup and mutability.
- nine_k 2y agoI suppose all self-describing formats, like protobuf, or thrift or, well, JSON are bigger than the efficient machine representation, because they carry the schema in every message, one way or another.
- IsTom 2y agoIf you use a lot of sharing in immutable data it can grow a lot when serializing. A simple pathological example would be a tree that has all left subtrees same as the right ones. It takes O(height) space in memory, but O(2^height) when serialized.
- gitroom 2y agohonestly i wish more stuff worked this way - fewer hops in memory always makes me happy
- lordleft 2y agoThis was very well written. Excellent article!
- NetOpWibby 2y agoIs this like MessagePack for Haskell?