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> After years of the left being accused of suppressing opposing views, I haven't seen quite the same backlash against conservatives building up ideologically ho

> After years of the left being accused of suppressing opposing views, I haven't seen quite the same backlash against conservatives building up ideologically homogenous spaces like the group chats in the article. The fundamental difference is that conservative viewpoints support the majority (or plurality), whereas the liberal viewpoints support the minority view. Backlash against the majority view is much harder to come by. And being in the majority and supporting minority perspectives is more uncomfortable, and frankly much easier to opt-out of if there is sufficient discomfort.

roguecoder 1y ago
If that were true, Republicans would spend a lot less effort on voter suppression & wouldn't have needed to have the Supreme Court repeal the Voting Rights Act in order to win.
- kenjackson 1y ago
  This is orthogonal to my point. Modern Republicans are populists who try to appeal to the majority constituency. But their policies are generally so bad (and mean-spirited) that they don't have broad appeal even amongst that group.
dralley 1y ago
> The fundamental difference is that conservative viewpoints support the majority (or plurality), whereas the liberal viewpoints support the minority view. Be specific and put up numbers. There is a wide, wide swath of issues where the "liberal" position is the majoritarian one.
- kenjackson 1y ago
  Conservative positions are generally pro-hetero, white, and Christian. Also male, but that is the one where they're not the majority, but very close to 50/50. There are "liberal" positions that are popular, but generally the current big conservative pushes are against minority populations. E.g., DEI, trans, immigrants (from certain countries), etc...
  - int_19h 1y ago
    You present it as a dichotomy when that's not actually the case. I'm heterosexual and white, but I don't see how policies that e.g. allow gay people to marry - a stereotypically "liberal" position - harm me in any way. There are some things where it's a zero-sum game, such as affirmative action. And those do in fact tend to be less popular even among liberals (as evidenced by referendums on those topics in blue states). But that's a relatively small part of the overall liberal platform.

roguecoder 1y ago

If that were true, Republicans would spend a lot less effort on voter suppression & wouldn't have needed to have the Supreme Court repeal the Voting Rights Act in order to win.

kenjackson 1y ago
This is orthogonal to my point. Modern Republicans are populists who try to appeal to the majority constituency. But their policies are generally so bad (and mean-spirited) that they don't have broad appeal even amongst that group.

dralley 1y ago

> The fundamental difference is that conservative viewpoints support the majority (or plurality), whereas the liberal viewpoints support the minority view. Be specific and put up numbers. There is a wide, wide swath of issues where the "liberal" position is the majoritarian one.

kenjackson 1y ago
Conservative positions are generally pro-hetero, white, and Christian. Also male, but that is the one where they're not the majority, but very close to 50/50. There are "liberal" positions that are popular, but generally the current big conservative pushes are against minority populations. E.g., DEI, trans, immigrants (from certain countries), etc...
- int_19h 1y ago
  You present it as a dichotomy when that's not actually the case. I'm heterosexual and white, but I don't see how policies that e.g. allow gay people to marry - a stereotypically "liberal" position - harm me in any way. There are some things where it's a zero-sum game, such as affirmative action. And those do in fact tend to be less popular even among liberals (as evidenced by referendums on those topics in blue states). But that's a relatively small part of the overall liberal platform.