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The fact this event is trending in four different posts all are currently in the front page of HN says a lot! Hope moderators combines them all under one unifie

The fact this event is trending in four different posts all are currently in the front page of HN says a lot! Hope moderators combines them all under one unified thread. See also: There are reports of widespread power cuts in Spain and Portugal (bbc.co.uk): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43820163 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43820163 Spain, Portugal and parts of France hit by power outage (euronews.com): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43820177 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43820177 Nationwide Power Outages Also Disrupt Internet Traffic in Portugal and Spain (twitter.com/cloudflareradar): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43819914 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43819914

perihelions 1y ago
You missed the biggest one, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43819791 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43819791 (123 comments) (I've emailed the mods to ask them to merge)
- dist-epoch 1y ago
  Because it's not on the front page, despite the large number of up-votes and comments. A tactic I've seen to "disappear" articles is to flag and then immediatly unflag them.
  - deleted 1y ago
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  - libertine 1y ago
    How isn't this addressed? Hopefully this major event gets that fixed.
    - matsemann 1y ago
      Flagging is used by large groups to keep "politics" off the front page. You'll find lots of interesting discussions on https://news.ycombinator.com/active https://news.ycombinator.com/active that people would like to discuss but has been de-weighted or flag-removed
      - libertine 1y ago
        Oh wow, thanks for sharing! I've been targeted with downvotes when ever the subject is Russian crimes against humanity, but I didn't know it had that range. Now a lot of things make sense!
      - throwanem 1y ago
        Oh, this is excellent! I had no idea the feature existed, and it should make a splendid basis for tooling to help identify those who always seem to find themselves at the center of discussions adding much heat and no light. (For later reference, that link was: https://news.ycombinator.com/active https://news.ycombinator.com/active)
  - throwanem 1y ago
    Oh, for God's sake. Unflagging was added because sometimes people hit "flag" by mistake, and I know that because I was one of the ones who asked for it. (Well, the "flagged" list on your profile page was so added. Unflagging I assume has existed about since flagging, but if you accidentally flagged from the homepage, that could not be undone until lately as I describe, because it would also hide the flagged story. Excuse me, I am as yet pre-coffee.) I'm similarly familiar enough with the lead HN dev, with whom I have passed a friendly discussion or two of how some site features are implemented, to be quite sure unflagging reverses whatever specific moderation weighting flagging applies. Do you have any specific knowledge to substantiate the claim you have made here?
    - addandsubtract 1y ago
      >if you accidentally flagged from the homepage, that could not be undone until lately as I describe, because it would also hide the flagged story Maybe we should remove the "flag" link from the homepage then, and only make it available on the submission itself. Or at least add a second confirmation click to the process.
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      - ziddoap 1y ago
        They already fixed the problem though, why come up with a different solution? Just press "unflag".
  - DamonHD 1y ago
    This item was flagged and I vouched for it when it was half-way down the new page, and it seems to have done OK. The monstorous secret cabal has failed again.
    - kevin_thibedeau 1y ago
      The cabal is eventually going to deploy AI bots that get themselves enough karma to flag everything. Then HN goes the way of /. as the corporate overlords decide what can be seen in public.
      - dang 1y ago
        HN has always been an actively curated site, so (in case it's comforting I guess?) the overlords (though I prefer the word janitor) have been at it for awhile. Here's me explaining this the day after I was outed as a moderator: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7494621 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7494621 (March 2014) Lots more along similar lines: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=by%3Adang%20curated&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...
        throwanem 1y ago
        I wouldn't really want to call myself a "janitor," these days. Not that you asked, but the name connotes badly of late, and it's as I often say about fathers: I think the genuinely good and decent people among the cohort find it very hard to appreciate just how otherwise anything else can become. Back before I joined the area of the industry containing companies anyone ever heard of, I liked to call myself a "computer plumber," and came eventually to enjoy that very much in all its implications. And hey, if you think about it, plumbers collectively really do save more lives in a year than most doctors I think would be too comfortable thinking too much about.
        dang 1y ago
        What's wrong with janitors?
ksec 1y ago
I dont think there were any on the front page when I submitted it. ( May be they weren't upvoted ) Because I thought such big news someone should have done it before me.
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Calwestjobs 1y ago
there are many pro russian trolls in other posts so maybe keep only this one lol.
- commiepatrol 1y ago
  You tell them, anyone I disagree with is a pro-Russian troll!
  - Calwestjobs 1y ago
    Exactly! XD No, seriously. A lot of badly translated russian (based on syntax) comments were removed, tho.

perihelions 1y ago

You missed the biggest one, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43819791 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43819791 (123 comments) (I've emailed the mods to ask them to merge)

dist-epoch 1y ago
Because it's not on the front page, despite the large number of up-votes and comments. A tactic I've seen to "disappear" articles is to flag and then immediatly unflag them.
- deleted 1y ago
  [deleted]
- libertine 1y ago
  How isn't this addressed? Hopefully this major event gets that fixed.
  - matsemann 1y ago
    Flagging is used by large groups to keep "politics" off the front page. You'll find lots of interesting discussions on https://news.ycombinator.com/active https://news.ycombinator.com/active that people would like to discuss but has been de-weighted or flag-removed
    - libertine 1y ago
      Oh wow, thanks for sharing! I've been targeted with downvotes when ever the subject is Russian crimes against humanity, but I didn't know it had that range. Now a lot of things make sense!
    - throwanem 1y ago
      Oh, this is excellent! I had no idea the feature existed, and it should make a splendid basis for tooling to help identify those who always seem to find themselves at the center of discussions adding much heat and no light. (For later reference, that link was: https://news.ycombinator.com/active https://news.ycombinator.com/active)
- throwanem 1y ago
  Oh, for God's sake. Unflagging was added because sometimes people hit "flag" by mistake, and I know that because I was one of the ones who asked for it. (Well, the "flagged" list on your profile page was so added. Unflagging I assume has existed about since flagging, but if you accidentally flagged from the homepage, that could not be undone until lately as I describe, because it would also hide the flagged story. Excuse me, I am as yet pre-coffee.) I'm similarly familiar enough with the lead HN dev, with whom I have passed a friendly discussion or two of how some site features are implemented, to be quite sure unflagging reverses whatever specific moderation weighting flagging applies. Do you have any specific knowledge to substantiate the claim you have made here?
  - addandsubtract 1y ago
    >if you accidentally flagged from the homepage, that could not be undone until lately as I describe, because it would also hide the flagged story Maybe we should remove the "flag" link from the homepage then, and only make it available on the submission itself. Or at least add a second confirmation click to the process.
    - deleted 1y ago
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    - ziddoap 1y ago
      They already fixed the problem though, why come up with a different solution? Just press "unflag".
- DamonHD 1y ago
  This item was flagged and I vouched for it when it was half-way down the new page, and it seems to have done OK. The monstorous secret cabal has failed again.
  - kevin_thibedeau 1y ago
    The cabal is eventually going to deploy AI bots that get themselves enough karma to flag everything. Then HN goes the way of /. as the corporate overlords decide what can be seen in public.
    - dang 1y ago
      HN has always been an actively curated site, so (in case it's comforting I guess?) the overlords (though I prefer the word janitor) have been at it for awhile. Here's me explaining this the day after I was outed as a moderator: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7494621 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7494621 (March 2014) Lots more along similar lines: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=by%3Adang%20curated&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...
      - throwanem 1y ago
        I wouldn't really want to call myself a "janitor," these days. Not that you asked, but the name connotes badly of late, and it's as I often say about fathers: I think the genuinely good and decent people among the cohort find it very hard to appreciate just how otherwise anything else can become. Back before I joined the area of the industry containing companies anyone ever heard of, I liked to call myself a "computer plumber," and came eventually to enjoy that very much in all its implications. And hey, if you think about it, plumbers collectively really do save more lives in a year than most doctors I think would be too comfortable thinking too much about.
        dang 1y ago
        What's wrong with janitors?

ksec 1y ago

I dont think there were any on the front page when I submitted it. ( May be they weren't upvoted ) Because I thought such big news someone should have done it before me.

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Calwestjobs 1y ago

there are many pro russian trolls in other posts so maybe keep only this one lol.

commiepatrol 1y ago
You tell them, anyone I disagree with is a pro-Russian troll!
- Calwestjobs 1y ago
  Exactly! XD No, seriously. A lot of badly translated russian (based on syntax) comments were removed, tho.