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1. no. My CS fundamentals could always use work, but I know enough to know how to improve them on my own if and when I need to. 2. yes. this could just be my c

1. no. My CS fundamentals could always use work, but I know enough to know how to improve them on my own if and when I need to. 2. yes. this could just be my cynicism talking though. I'm not looking at any unaccredited program. I already have one of those under my belt.

3np 2y ago
I think you may be undervaluing effort and payoff of CS fundamentals, as well as overestimating payoff of the paper from an online degree. (Caveat: If you'll be emigrating in the future a degree can make a difference for visas if recognized ) If you do it and actually apply yourself (as opposed to optimizing for points/effort) I guess you'll be on the up regardless of which (:
- platevoltage 2y ago
  I wasn't undervaluing it. I was just answering the question. I've spent a lot of time on CS fundamentals. I can't say I've used a binary search tree in my every day work. If I anticipate this type of question in an interview, I'll need to go back and review. Thats all I meant.
  - sn9 2y ago
    They aren't talking about leetcode: https://teachyourselfcs.com/ https://teachyourselfcs.com/
wai1234 2y ago
Your answer to 1 troubles me. A CS degree program greatly expands your toolbox BEFORE you need those tools. The problem I have with "when I need to" is how do you know now is the time? It's a chicken-and-egg thing. If an employer hears "I'll go learn that and get back to you" too often, you will not work there for long. For 2, fair enough. What school will give you a BS degree for <15K?
hayst4ck 2y ago
There are things you know, things you don't know, and things you don't know you don't know. College is pretty good about the last category, but really if you went through syllabi, scanned through lecture notes, and paged through the reading materials listed, you're probably ahead of most students in that category. That exercise alone will probably give you a good idea of the technical value of the education. I would add that words don't have objective complete meanings. Words are indirect references to ideas and ideas are like raw marble in your head, carved into meaningful shapes by working with and manipulating those ideas. If you bring out a word like "consistency", college is very much about shaping the idea behind that word into increasingly more crisp and formal meanings, especially meanings that can then interact with ideas behind other words like "atomicity" or "scale".
- dinkumthinkum 2y ago
  Even for someone with a degree in philosophy I think the last couple paragraphs are over-thinking things a lot here. I have never heard university described that way. The Rumsfeld thing about "unknowns unknowns" is clever I guess. :)

3np 2y ago

I think you may be undervaluing effort and payoff of CS fundamentals, as well as overestimating payoff of the paper from an online degree. (Caveat: If you'll be emigrating in the future a degree can make a difference for visas if recognized ) If you do it and actually apply yourself (as opposed to optimizing for points/effort) I guess you'll be on the up regardless of which (:

platevoltage 2y ago
I wasn't undervaluing it. I was just answering the question. I've spent a lot of time on CS fundamentals. I can't say I've used a binary search tree in my every day work. If I anticipate this type of question in an interview, I'll need to go back and review. Thats all I meant.
- sn9 2y ago
  They aren't talking about leetcode: https://teachyourselfcs.com/ https://teachyourselfcs.com/

wai1234 2y ago

Your answer to 1 troubles me. A CS degree program greatly expands your toolbox BEFORE you need those tools. The problem I have with "when I need to" is how do you know now is the time? It's a chicken-and-egg thing. If an employer hears "I'll go learn that and get back to you" too often, you will not work there for long. For 2, fair enough. What school will give you a BS degree for <15K?

hayst4ck 2y ago

There are things you know, things you don't know, and things you don't know you don't know. College is pretty good about the last category, but really if you went through syllabi, scanned through lecture notes, and paged through the reading materials listed, you're probably ahead of most students in that category. That exercise alone will probably give you a good idea of the technical value of the education. I would add that words don't have objective complete meanings. Words are indirect references to ideas and ideas are like raw marble in your head, carved into meaningful shapes by working with and manipulating those ideas. If you bring out a word like "consistency", college is very much about shaping the idea behind that word into increasingly more crisp and formal meanings, especially meanings that can then interact with ideas behind other words like "atomicity" or "scale".

dinkumthinkum 2y ago
Even for someone with a degree in philosophy I think the last couple paragraphs are over-thinking things a lot here. I have never heard university described that way. The Rumsfeld thing about "unknowns unknowns" is clever I guess. :)