5 ms·

Get real. Companies with infinitely more money, staff, and robust security practices are hacked every day. The only difference is they put out a vague generic c

Get real. Companies with infinitely more money, staff, and robust security practices are hacked every day. The only difference is they put out a vague generic corpospeak statement whereas this one admitted it was caused by a skeleton crew on a shoestring budget getting caught out. Given the nature of their user base and how many others would love to see 4chan go down, if things were as bad as you imply then hackers would be taking the site down weekly.

MichaelZuo 1y ago
Source? I have never heard of a bank’s core mainframes being hacked in the last decade (outside of pen tests), even for mid size banks outside the global top 100.
- sjdrc 1y ago
  What are you talking about? There are massive breaches of huge companies who should be doing better all the time. In 2017: > More than 40% of the population of America was potentially impacted by the Equifax data breach. In 2022: > In September 2022, Optus experienced a major data breach that exposed the personal information of millions of customers That's just 2 off the top of my head.
  - MichaelZuo 1y ago
    Did you miss the words “bank” and “core mainframes”? i.e. what they actually might spend millions of dollars per week on securing.
    - meinersbur 1y ago
      Because only a hacked "core mainframe" (definition please) of a bank can excuse the lack of resources at 4chan? Only accepting overly specific evidence is a neat trick to never lose an argument.
- transcriptase 1y ago
  https://www.brightdefense.com/resources/recent-data-breaches/ https://www.brightdefense.com/resources/recent-data-breaches...
  - MichaelZuo 1y ago
    These are not the core mainframes… the only parts that actually get what might be called lavish spending on security. Everything else outside of that… banks obviously have incentives to cut security spending to as low as possible.
    - transcriptase 1y ago
      Nobody is comparing 4chan to bank mainframes except you. I can’t give a source for something I didn’t claim in the first place.
      - MichaelZuo 1y ago
        Are you confused? The claim was “ Get real. Companies with infinitely more money, staff, and robust security practices are hacked every day. ” Banking core mainframes are the only thing I know of that gets anwhere near that kind of claim in terms of money, staff, and “robust security practices” 24/7/365. And even then it’s far from infinite.
        transcriptase 1y ago
        “Infinitely more” compared to a shoestring budget does not mean infinite unless you want to be annoyingly pedantic. The fact is I provided a fairly comprehensive list of hacks and breaches, many coming from large public companies that spend more in a year on security than 4chan brings in for ad revenue in a decade.
        MichaelZuo 1y ago
        It’s not even a million times more for a typical mid size bank… probably not even 100,000x… and as far as I know their core mainframes have been 100% secure over the past decade. Hence my point. Are you even fully reading my comments? If you only meant that your claim applies only within an upper limit of say 1000x… saying “infinitely more” is obviously going to mislead some fraction of the readerbase.

MichaelZuo 1y ago

Source? I have never heard of a bank’s core mainframes being hacked in the last decade (outside of pen tests), even for mid size banks outside the global top 100.

sjdrc 1y ago
What are you talking about? There are massive breaches of huge companies who should be doing better all the time. In 2017: > More than 40% of the population of America was potentially impacted by the Equifax data breach. In 2022: > In September 2022, Optus experienced a major data breach that exposed the personal information of millions of customers That's just 2 off the top of my head.
- MichaelZuo 1y ago
  Did you miss the words “bank” and “core mainframes”? i.e. what they actually might spend millions of dollars per week on securing.
  - meinersbur 1y ago
    Because only a hacked "core mainframe" (definition please) of a bank can excuse the lack of resources at 4chan? Only accepting overly specific evidence is a neat trick to never lose an argument.
transcriptase 1y ago
https://www.brightdefense.com/resources/recent-data-breaches/ https://www.brightdefense.com/resources/recent-data-breaches...
- MichaelZuo 1y ago
  These are not the core mainframes… the only parts that actually get what might be called lavish spending on security. Everything else outside of that… banks obviously have incentives to cut security spending to as low as possible.
  - transcriptase 1y ago
    Nobody is comparing 4chan to bank mainframes except you. I can’t give a source for something I didn’t claim in the first place.
    - MichaelZuo 1y ago
      Are you confused? The claim was “ Get real. Companies with infinitely more money, staff, and robust security practices are hacked every day. ” Banking core mainframes are the only thing I know of that gets anwhere near that kind of claim in terms of money, staff, and “robust security practices” 24/7/365. And even then it’s far from infinite.
      - transcriptase 1y ago
        “Infinitely more” compared to a shoestring budget does not mean infinite unless you want to be annoyingly pedantic. The fact is I provided a fairly comprehensive list of hacks and breaches, many coming from large public companies that spend more in a year on security than 4chan brings in for ad revenue in a decade.
        MichaelZuo 1y ago
        It’s not even a million times more for a typical mid size bank… probably not even 100,000x… and as far as I know their core mainframes have been 100% secure over the past decade. Hence my point. Are you even fully reading my comments? If you only meant that your claim applies only within an upper limit of say 1000x… saying “infinitely more” is obviously going to mislead some fraction of the readerbase.