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A really interesting side effect of 4o becoming a yes man: > 4o updated thinks I am truly a prophet sent by God in less than 6 messages. This is dangerous [0]

A really interesting side effect of 4o becoming a yes man: > 4o updated thinks I am truly a prophet sent by God in less than 6 messages. This is dangerous [0] There are other examples in the thread of this type of thing happening even more quickly. [1] This is indeed dangerous. [0] https://old.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1k95sgl/4o_updated_thinks_i_am_truly_a_prophet_sent_by/ https://old.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1k95sgl/4o_updated... [1] https://chatgpt.com/share/680e6988-0824-8005-8808-831dc0c100f7 https://chatgpt.com/share/680e6988-0824-8005-8808-831dc0c100...

neom 2y ago
You can't put much faith in screenshots or chatgpt share-links: https://chatgpt.com/share/680ed17d-fca4-800f-93e2-38b3ff2da497 https://chatgpt.com/share/680ed17d-fca4-800f-93e2-38b3ff2da4... / https://chatgpt.com/share/680ed088-5f74-800f-8b7b-f12948fa9ed1 https://chatgpt.com/share/680ed088-5f74-800f-8b7b-f12948fa9e...
felipeerias 2y ago
A nightmare scenario for LLMs is becoming another dealer of cheap dopamine hits, using your personal history, your anxieties, and whatever else it can infer from you to keep you hooked.
- steveBK123 2y ago
  Zuckerberg already on it
- pjc50 2y ago
  s/nightmare scenario/only possible route to justify the multibillion valuation/ Not just a danger for interpersonal relationships, it will enable everyone in a management structure to surround themselves with perfect yes-men.
- iszomer 2y ago
  > personal history, your anxieties I asked ChatGPT to isolate individual chats so as to not bleed bias across all chats which funnily enough it admitted doing so. When I asked Grok, it said it is set as the default out of the box.
  - freeone3000 2y ago
    And how would you possibly believe that! If it had access to its own settings, and it wasn’t making things up, and it wasn’t lying… but why would it be trained on any of these things?
    - iszomer 2y ago
      Because I would test if it's keeping its word, like periodically or spontaneously asking both whether it can _import_ the context from one chat to another or, judging the conversational flow between topics.
      - freeone3000 2y ago
        You’re attributing consistency and theory of mind to something that has neither. It will say yes sometimes, despite not being able to do so!
        iszomer 2y ago
        Maybe we're on different wavelengths on this issue but practically speaking, it hasn't spilled or splattered contexts from different chat topics.. yet.
- immibis 2y ago
  Isn't it already one and that's why anyone uses it?
motorest 2y ago
I'm seeing so many complains that 4o became a yes man, but I wonder if anyone ever used Gemini. What an egregiously sycophant persona. Users are blasted with infantile positive reinforcements just by posting a damn prompt.
- wildrhythms 2y ago
  It's customer service speak

neom 2y ago

You can't put much faith in screenshots or chatgpt share-links: https://chatgpt.com/share/680ed17d-fca4-800f-93e2-38b3ff2da497 https://chatgpt.com/share/680ed17d-fca4-800f-93e2-38b3ff2da4... / https://chatgpt.com/share/680ed088-5f74-800f-8b7b-f12948fa9ed1 https://chatgpt.com/share/680ed088-5f74-800f-8b7b-f12948fa9e...

felipeerias 2y ago

A nightmare scenario for LLMs is becoming another dealer of cheap dopamine hits, using your personal history, your anxieties, and whatever else it can infer from you to keep you hooked.

steveBK123 2y ago
Zuckerberg already on it
pjc50 2y ago
s/nightmare scenario/only possible route to justify the multibillion valuation/ Not just a danger for interpersonal relationships, it will enable everyone in a management structure to surround themselves with perfect yes-men.
iszomer 2y ago
> personal history, your anxieties I asked ChatGPT to isolate individual chats so as to not bleed bias across all chats which funnily enough it admitted doing so. When I asked Grok, it said it is set as the default out of the box.
- freeone3000 2y ago
  And how would you possibly believe that! If it had access to its own settings, and it wasn’t making things up, and it wasn’t lying… but why would it be trained on any of these things?
  - iszomer 2y ago
    Because I would test if it's keeping its word, like periodically or spontaneously asking both whether it can _import_ the context from one chat to another or, judging the conversational flow between topics.
    - freeone3000 2y ago
      You’re attributing consistency and theory of mind to something that has neither. It will say yes sometimes, despite not being able to do so!
      - iszomer 2y ago
        Maybe we're on different wavelengths on this issue but practically speaking, it hasn't spilled or splattered contexts from different chat topics.. yet.
immibis 2y ago
Isn't it already one and that's why anyone uses it?

motorest 2y ago

I'm seeing so many complains that 4o became a yes man, but I wonder if anyone ever used Gemini. What an egregiously sycophant persona. Users are blasted with infantile positive reinforcements just by posting a damn prompt.

wildrhythms 2y ago
It's customer service speak