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Because revoking a license doesn't stop someone from driving, and seizing the car doesn't stop a person from driving someone elses car. Also, since we live in

by tekla 1y ago

Because revoking a license doesn't stop someone from driving, and seizing the car doesn't stop a person from driving someone elses car. Also, since we live in a card dependent world, you can argue that taking away someones car is destroying their ability to make a living (as much as I think this excuse is horseshit when dealing with dangerous driving)

bdangubic 1y ago
Because revoking a license doesn't stop someone from driving, and seizing the car doesn't stop a person from driving someone elses car. same, with this law :)
mbreese 1y ago
The article says that 75% of people with revoked licenses continue to drive anyway. So yes… you’re completely right. But if you don’t take away their car, then that’s the car they are most likely to use (there is no excuse to borrow someone else’s car). So maybe this is a better punishment.
gotoeleven 1y ago
?? Yes it does. You presumably go to jail if you get caught driving without a license. Or do they not have legal penalties for driving without a license in virginia? If so, then it sounds like the problem is whatever dumb laws keep people that are driving illegally from going to jail.
- chneu 1y ago
  Driving without a license will rarely land someone in jail. It just racks up fines and then the person can never get their license back. It's why a lot of states will occasionally do license fine forgiveness.
cinntaile 1y ago
Turn the car into scrap. They'll learn fast enough.
tokai 1y ago
>doesn't stop a person from driving someone elses car Oh it does. Nobody will lend you a car that be lost to seizure. Denmark has car confiscation for speeding (not even repeated, just for single time 100% over the speed limit), and they will even take rental cars. It has definitely changed how easy it is to loan a car from friends, family, and businesses. Naturally consequences for driving without a license should also be increased. I don't buy the car dependent argument. People are put in prison for minor victimless crimes. Something much much more life destroying than loosing your car and right to drive. If you need your car to live don't break the law repeatedly.
- chneu 1y ago
  People who get their licenses taken don't stop driving. That's just how it is. They'll buy a car or use a friend/family members. This is an issue in almost rural areas. Something like 75% of people who get their licenses taken continue to drive. They just rack up fines.
  - AmVess 1y ago
    They stop driving in places with stiff penalties for driving without a license. I used to live in a state that made driving with suspended or revoked license punishable by up to 3 months in jail. Repeat offenders would have their vehicle taken off of them. Taken off as in seized; it is no longer yours. It becomes a rather burdensome crime when the car they seized has a bank not attached to it. Having a car seized doesn't end your obligation to pay off the loan. All the local police and state police have license plate scanners, and would also alert on DWLS/DWLR. No point in trying to get around it by driving someone else's car. That vehicle also subject to seizure. All this sounds rather hardcore, but the payoffs were many. Low number of accidents and traffic deaths, low cost of car insurance. Really dangerous activities like reckless driving and DWI could have life changing consequences even from the first offense.

by tekla 1y ago

bdangubic 1y ago

Because revoking a license doesn't stop someone from driving, and seizing the car doesn't stop a person from driving someone elses car. same, with this law :)

mbreese 1y ago

The article says that 75% of people with revoked licenses continue to drive anyway. So yes… you’re completely right. But if you don’t take away their car, then that’s the car they are most likely to use (there is no excuse to borrow someone else’s car). So maybe this is a better punishment.

gotoeleven 1y ago

?? Yes it does. You presumably go to jail if you get caught driving without a license. Or do they not have legal penalties for driving without a license in virginia? If so, then it sounds like the problem is whatever dumb laws keep people that are driving illegally from going to jail.

chneu 1y ago
Driving without a license will rarely land someone in jail. It just racks up fines and then the person can never get their license back. It's why a lot of states will occasionally do license fine forgiveness.

cinntaile 1y ago

Turn the car into scrap. They'll learn fast enough.

tokai 1y ago

>doesn't stop a person from driving someone elses car Oh it does. Nobody will lend you a car that be lost to seizure. Denmark has car confiscation for speeding (not even repeated, just for single time 100% over the speed limit), and they will even take rental cars. It has definitely changed how easy it is to loan a car from friends, family, and businesses. Naturally consequences for driving without a license should also be increased. I don't buy the car dependent argument. People are put in prison for minor victimless crimes. Something much much more life destroying than loosing your car and right to drive. If you need your car to live don't break the law repeatedly.

chneu 1y ago
People who get their licenses taken don't stop driving. That's just how it is. They'll buy a car or use a friend/family members. This is an issue in almost rural areas. Something like 75% of people who get their licenses taken continue to drive. They just rack up fines.
- AmVess 1y ago
  They stop driving in places with stiff penalties for driving without a license. I used to live in a state that made driving with suspended or revoked license punishable by up to 3 months in jail. Repeat offenders would have their vehicle taken off of them. Taken off as in seized; it is no longer yours. It becomes a rather burdensome crime when the car they seized has a bank not attached to it. Having a car seized doesn't end your obligation to pay off the loan. All the local police and state police have license plate scanners, and would also alert on DWLS/DWLR. No point in trying to get around it by driving someone else's car. That vehicle also subject to seizure. All this sounds rather hardcore, but the payoffs were many. Low number of accidents and traffic deaths, low cost of car insurance. Really dangerous activities like reckless driving and DWI could have life changing consequences even from the first offense.