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Ask HN: Can vibe coding competitions be challenging and fair?

15 points by amichail 2y ago

If so, how?

ein0p 2y ago
I think they can be, except of course the problems need to be much harder, and impossible to solve via vibe coding alone. Like it or not, AI assistance is going to stay with us. This is the "new baseline" against which engineers will be judged.
- amunozo 2y ago
  I think the same about education. Assignments must be harder now, it is impossible and undesirable to ban AI assistants.
  - amichail 2y ago
    Students might complain that their AI assistant was acting unusually dumb just before the assignment deadline.
willmeyers 2y ago
Game jams might be interesting, especially 24-hour ones. Someone who uses an LLM to handle some coding tasks can focus on the art and mechanics. I think it would still challenging and fair with vibe coding.
- karmakaze 2y ago
  You could have done the whole exercise the week before and merely regenerate/retrace your steps at the live event.
- xdfgh1112 2y ago
  Experienced game designers have a lot of tooling and libraries of previous code they can borrow to make prototypes quickly. AI would level the playing field.
- hchak 2y ago
  We did something like this at my workplace, but it was vibes to automate common tasks
runjake 2y ago
For a good example, check out Pieter Levels’ vibe coding gaming competition from April. There were some really impressive entries. Karpathy was one of the judges. https://x.com/levelsio https://x.com/levelsio
heresjohnny 2y ago
Of course. The only thing that’s changed (raised) is the baseline. It’s still hard to come up with a winning idea that’s innovative, creative, and polished. It’s also much easier to go into a rabbit hole you shouldn’t have gone into, which can be quite costly during a competition.
afinlayson 2y ago
The Randomness of LLMs make it so 10 people could write the exact same prompts and have wildly different answers.. It's closer to Texas Hold'em than a coding challenge.
obayesshelton 2y ago
Google CodeJam meets Vibe Coding?

15 points by amichail 2y ago

If so, how?

I think they can be, except of course the problems need to be much harder, and impossible to solve via vibe coding alone. Like it or not, AI assistance is going to stay with us. This is the "new baseline" against which engineers will be judged.

amunozo 2y ago
I think the same about education. Assignments must be harder now, it is impossible and undesirable to ban AI assistants.
- amichail 2y ago
  Students might complain that their AI assistant was acting unusually dumb just before the assignment deadline.

willmeyers 2y ago

Game jams might be interesting, especially 24-hour ones. Someone who uses an LLM to handle some coding tasks can focus on the art and mechanics. I think it would still challenging and fair with vibe coding.

karmakaze 2y ago
You could have done the whole exercise the week before and merely regenerate/retrace your steps at the live event.
xdfgh1112 2y ago
Experienced game designers have a lot of tooling and libraries of previous code they can borrow to make prototypes quickly. AI would level the playing field.
hchak 2y ago
We did something like this at my workplace, but it was vibes to automate common tasks

runjake 2y ago

For a good example, check out Pieter Levels’ vibe coding gaming competition from April. There were some really impressive entries. Karpathy was one of the judges. https://x.com/levelsio https://x.com/levelsio

heresjohnny 2y ago

Of course. The only thing that’s changed (raised) is the baseline. It’s still hard to come up with a winning idea that’s innovative, creative, and polished. It’s also much easier to go into a rabbit hole you shouldn’t have gone into, which can be quite costly during a competition.

afinlayson 2y ago

The Randomness of LLMs make it so 10 people could write the exact same prompts and have wildly different answers.. It's closer to Texas Hold'em than a coding challenge.

obayesshelton 2y ago

Google CodeJam meets Vibe Coding?