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There is no logic in Nathan’s argument - only a facade of logic designed to justify his misogyny. He constructs a false trichotomy where every “choice” serves o

There is no logic in Nathan’s argument - only a facade of logic designed to justify his misogyny. He constructs a false trichotomy where every “choice” serves only to strip women of their rights or autonomy. That’s not reason - that’s prejudice dressed up in pseudo-rational language. You cannot reason someone out of a position they didn’t arrive at through reason. Nathan’s view is not a logical conclusion - it’s a pre-existing bias looking for any excuse to present itself as inevitable. And if you genuinely don’t see the problem with that - if you believe that calling out misogyny is somehow “emotional manipulation” - then you need to take a long, hard look at yourself. Because whether you realise it or not, you are aligning yourself with a worldview that is profoundly dangerous to women.

Kittru 2y ago
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- strangecasts 2y ago
  > We are in an unpleasant situation. It's probably going to require an unpleasant solution. You seem to be in denial of this reality. It is an incredible coincidence that every time I hear this, the unpleasant situation happens to be fixable by just tearing away a few more individual rights, which will surely be back once the unpleasant situation is gone and not replaced by five more unpleasant situations
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- closewith 2y ago
  I don’t argue about whether women’s human rights are negotiable. They are not. They are sacrosanct. I don’t debate bigots. I shame them. > “We are in an unpleasant situation. It’s probably going to require an unpleasant solution.” Well, as you’ve decided that basic human rights are now “optional,” let me propose a solution: Since misogynists like you and Nathan are clearly a threat to women’s safety and comfort — and since women’s safety is essential for building the kind of secure, family-oriented society you claim to care about — why don’t we abolish your right to life instead? Start a misogynist elimination programme. It would immediately reduce the threats women face, which are far more immediate and real than the hypothetical societal collapse you keep waving around. Or does the idea of sacrificing your own rights to “fix” society not sit as comfortably with you as sacrificing those of women?
  - Snow_Falls 2y ago
    Hey I commented on a different reply of yours before realising you're the only commenter pushing back on this rubbish, so I just want to say that I appreciate you taking the time to do this. Leaving ideas like this unchallenged just legitimises it.
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strangecasts 2y ago
> We are in an unpleasant situation. It's probably going to require an unpleasant solution. You seem to be in denial of this reality. It is an incredible coincidence that every time I hear this, the unpleasant situation happens to be fixable by just tearing away a few more individual rights, which will surely be back once the unpleasant situation is gone and not replaced by five more unpleasant situations
- Kittru 2y ago
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closewith 2y ago
I don’t argue about whether women’s human rights are negotiable. They are not. They are sacrosanct. I don’t debate bigots. I shame them. > “We are in an unpleasant situation. It’s probably going to require an unpleasant solution.” Well, as you’ve decided that basic human rights are now “optional,” let me propose a solution: Since misogynists like you and Nathan are clearly a threat to women’s safety and comfort — and since women’s safety is essential for building the kind of secure, family-oriented society you claim to care about — why don’t we abolish your right to life instead? Start a misogynist elimination programme. It would immediately reduce the threats women face, which are far more immediate and real than the hypothetical societal collapse you keep waving around. Or does the idea of sacrificing your own rights to “fix” society not sit as comfortably with you as sacrificing those of women?
- Snow_Falls 2y ago
  Hey I commented on a different reply of yours before realising you're the only commenter pushing back on this rubbish, so I just want to say that I appreciate you taking the time to do this. Leaving ideas like this unchallenged just legitimises it.
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