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>this is grotesquely unethical If it's 'grotesquely unethical' then all LLMs need to be destroyed and all research on LLMs stopped immediately. The proof is t
by GeoAtreides 1y ago
>this is grotesquely unethical
If it's 'grotesquely unethical' then all LLMs need to be destroyed and all research on LLMs stopped immediately.
The proof is trivial and left as an exercise to the reader.
- simonw 1y agoI am apparently not smart enough to be able to derive that trivial proof. Can you spell it out for me?
- calf 1y agoIf I were to fathom a guess it would be (the argument that) that LLMs have been a science experiment upon humanity, that many of us haven't consented to. Imagine if OpenAI instead crawled the Earth for shedded human hair and skin cell samples, did advanced genetic engineering and started growing GMO humans and put them in society "for free", would there be an equivalent outrage? I honestly don't know.
- msla 1y agoNo, it's unethical because it's human experimentation. Experimenting on humans requires consent.
- mvdtnz 1y agoTo be fair, it's experimenting on redditors which are mostly bots now anyway.
- ptx 1y agoAre you arguing that if LLMs were unethical then they would have been destroyed, but they have not been destroyed, so they must not be unethical? If so, you need to show how something needing to be done necessarily results in it actually being done. Many things that need to be done are not actually done.
- GeoAtreides 1y agoNo, I'm afraid that's not what I argued; my comment was normative, not half of an fallacy of the inverse.
- ptx 1y agoAlright. Well, now that we've had two guesses in this thread, maybe you can reveal what you were really arguing and what the proof was?
- GeoAtreides 1y agoLLMs technology is widespread, widely available, effective Posting LLMs content is cheap, easy, undetectable Bad actors (or just greedy) are heavily incentivised to use and not to disclose LLMs use It then follows that LLMs, by their nature, lead inevitably to 'grotesquely unethical' behaviour. There are no guard rails, nothing, to stop LLMs being used in grotesquely unethical ways. Other things that were grotesquely unethical: unit 731, tuskegee syphilis study, mengele, etc. LLMs are inherently flawed and their consequences monstrous, thus they have to be destroyed. Given, of course, that we agree on all this being 'grotesquely unethical'.