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Im talking about intent: knowingly and intentionally breaking the law. I understand that honest mistakes happen due to inaccurate information, understand, ect.
by s1artibartfast 2y ago
Im talking about intent: knowingly and intentionally breaking the law.
I understand that honest mistakes happen due to inaccurate information, understand, ect.
- e.g. you thought a cop was a burglar.
These are different from poor and regrettable choices, also sometimes referred to as "mistakes".
- I beat my wife because I caught them cheating.
There may be an interpretation of this situation where judge did not understand their situation and actions, but I don't find it very probable. It seems clear that they were trying to help the target of a legal warrant evade law enforcement apprehension, and knew exactly what they were doing.
- frognumber 2y agoPeople do dumb things in stressful situations. To your "I beat my wife because I caught them cheating" example, there's a world of difference between: 1) I walked in. An argument and a fight ensued. 2) I found out about it, went of and thought, and made the choice. There's a hierarchy, including: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provocation_(law) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provocation_(law) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insanity_defense https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insanity_defense I find it entirely probable that the judge didn't know or understand, in the moment, their situation and the implications of their actions. Indeed, I will go one step further. If ICE does illegal things 100 times, then it's reasonable to expect an unreasonable reaction maybe 10% of the time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proximate_cause https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proximate_cause If I were a judge, and someone came into court with an "administrative warrant," I might not want them disturbing my courthouse either. I might want parties to feel safe there, and be concerned about miscarriages of justice if parties are scared to show up.
- frognumber 2y agoPeople do dumb things in stressful situations. To your "I beat my wife because I caught them cheating" example, there's a world of difference between: 1) I walked in. An argument and a fight ensued. 2) I found out about it, went of and thought, and made the choice. There's a hierarchy, including: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provocation_(law) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provocation_(law) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insanity_defense https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insanity_defense I find it entirely probable that the judge didn't know or understand, in the moment, their situation and the implications of their actions. Indeed, I will go one step further. If ICE does illegal things 100 times, then it's reasonable to expect an unreasonable reaction maybe 10% of the time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proximate_cause https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proximate_cause If I were a judge, and someone came into court with an "administrative warrant," I might not want them disturbing my courthouse either. I might want parties to feel safe there, and be concerned about miscarriages of justice if parties are scared to show up. The trick here is to have policies ahead-of-time, and especially, to let judges know about this sort of thing ahead-of-time. If police show up at my door, I might make a mistake. If they let me know ahead of time, and I have time to think, I hopefully won't.