On what basis are we to judge the arguments? Have you done broad primary sociological and economic research? Have you even read the primary research? In genera

On what basis are we to judge the arguments? Have you done broad primary sociological and economic research? Have you even read the primary research? In general forums like this we're all just expressing our opinions based on our personal anecdotes, combined with what we read in tertiary (or further) sources. The identity of the arguer is about as meaningful as anything else. The best I think we can hope for is "thank you for telling me about your experiences and the values that you get from them. Let us compare and see what kind of livable compromise we can find that makes us both as confortable as is feasible." If we go in expecting an argument that can be won, it can only ever end badly because basically none of us have anywhere near enough information.