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Corporations can (and should) provide training for tradespeople, but you can't do the same for specialized degrees, like engineering. To train engineers it take
by elteto 1y ago
Corporations can (and should) provide training for tradespeople, but you can't do the same for specialized degrees, like engineering. To train engineers it takes 4-5 years of academic + project work, which is what colleges and universities provide. There's nothing wrong with degrees, what we have in the US is a broken aid system with perverse incentives around the financing of such degrees. Don't conflate one thing with the other.
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- toomuchtodo 1y agoI don't disagree that there is a legit need for engineering degree holding workers, but, how many folks in the US are getting engineering degrees just to check a box to get a job that requires a degree? This is a distinct issue versus dysfunctional funding of necessary degree paths.
- ghostpepper 1y agoI may just be misunderstanding what you're saying but if you're just getting a degree to tick a box that says "Must have a degree" why would you pick engineering? What are the jobs that "require" an engineering degree but don't actually require any engineering knowledge?
- toomuchtodo 1y agoSorry for any misunderstanding. To be clear, there are two problems: 1. Students going into debt to get a degree simply because a job req calls for it, but potentially doesn't use the degree. Think "business administration" amongst others. The "Bachelor's Checkbox" on an application if you will. The debt they incur is the cost to increase their white collar lottery odds. 2. Degrees in domains that are crucial for the work to be done, but the financing model is fucked. Engineering, MD, etc. Both require solving for, but in this context, I am addressing the former.