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This article is a complete fabrication. Jobs have been lost. Businesses have seen a reduction in sales due to having to raise prices. People don't tip at all

This article is a complete fabrication. Jobs have been lost. Businesses have seen a reduction in sales due to having to raise prices. People don't tip at all now or tip very little. Full time jobs are shifted to be part time. Etc. As is always the case with these policies, the people who were promised better outcomes are the ones who suffer. Everything is more expensive. On top of that, CA has a fetish with taxation, which means your $20 per hour likely has the buying power you had when you were earning $10, if not less. We pay nearly $5 per gallon for gasoline when, in other parts of the nation the prices are around $2.50. It's all taxes and over-regulation. Insurance (car and home) is crazy expensive. Everything is expensive. I am not sure how far we are from what I've been calling a "Javier Milei" moment in CA. The moment when the population finally suffered enough to understand reality and put people in office who will actually do what they are supposed to do. New one: They are pushing for a mileage tax on vehicles. The excuse is that revenues have come down due to electrics. This is a lie. Only about 5% of the vehicles in CA are EV's. Furthermore, the road maintenance taxes we pay on fuel have AUTOMATIC annual increases built in. And yet, I have been to third world countries who's road are better maintained than in CA. It's truly embarrassing and criminal. The money is being diverted to things other than road maintenance. In short, this article is completely disconnected to reality on the ground.

robomartin 1y ago
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casey2 1y ago
Why do you go on the internet at lie? Anybody can look up fast food employement rates in california and see that you are just bullshiting. California has more fast food jobs now than at any point in it's history. Mcdonalds has already recovered from it's fool's day blip. I just don't understand why Americans want a race to the bottom on their food/food service quality. Apparently at the expense of growth.
- s1artibartfast 1y ago
  >Why do you go on the internet at lie? Anybody can look up fast food employement rates in california and see that you are just bullshiting. genuinely looking for a Source? On BLS I see see California employment numbers are down. https://data.bls.gov/cew/apps/table_maker/v4/table_maker.htm#type=17&from=2023&to=2024&qtr=1&own=5&ind=722513&area=06000&supp=1 https://data.bls.gov/cew/apps/table_maker/v4/table_maker.htm...
- robomartin 1y ago
  > Why do you go on the internet at lie? Anybody can look up fast food employement rates in california and see that you are just bullshiting. Why do you post such a reply without making any effort whatsoever to check the references I provided and engaging in a modicum of critical thinking. I purposely provided left-leaning references just to be sure there was no room for anyone to claim the source might be biased. The SEIU and BLS are two such organization, and I provided reports from both of them. I apologize my being aggressive. I am just sick and tired of the ignorant, stupid culture we seem to have developed. Anyone --ANYONE-- who has run a non-trivial business fully understands how FORCING a massive increase in business inputs has consequences, which rarely are good. This is one such cases. Politicians sell a higher minimum wage to the ignorant masses as a solution to their problems. The ignorant masses vote for them. Minimum wage is artificially forced upwards. They loose their jobs, earn less money, costs of goods go up, they are replaced with automation, outsourced or replaced by illegal immigrants paid cash under the table (less than minimum wage, of course). We are in desperate need of education in this country. Our voters have become useful idiots.
  - kragen 1y ago
    In case anyone else is looking for the references, they're in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43808719 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43808719, a comment that is currently unfortunately [dead], probably because it's rude. You have to log in and turn on "showdead" in your profile. The links are https://californiaglobe.com/fl/new-seiu-funded-report-admits-20-wage-law-caused-fast-food-job-losses/ https://californiaglobe.com/fl/new-seiu-funded-report-admits... and https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/qwllx1iv8q1ecudz6z59v/BRG_Impacts-of-20-Min-Wage-Report_2.18.25_FINAL.pdf?rlkey=zy6b96c3s5ngjeactf30hui77&e=4&st=guugtn2c&dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/qwllx1iv8q1ecudz6z59v/BRG_Imp....
    - robomartin 1y ago
      I often find it interesting to see what gets flagged and downvoted or characterized as rude on various platforms, including here on HN. Saying somethings is "ignorant" or "stupid" is deemed a negative, when, on the other side, what is being said is in a range between lies and outright dumb and uninformed. This is particularly egregious when it is accompanied by no obvious effort to investigate and understand before making a comment. It is fine to challenge anything anyone says, of course. The way you do it is, to, for example, ask a question: "I don't think I agree, what evidence can you provide?" or "Can you clarify your position?", etc. The Biden situation is a perfect example of this. Half the country was screaming about his mental decline and beyond obvious incapacity. How did that half of the country get treated? They were insulted and attacked from every angle. What was the truth? The president was senile and incapacitated, likely since almost his first days in office. So, what is more obscene and rude? To tell someone who is uninformed, ignorant and who refuses to look at reality that they are, in fact, uninformed and ignorant, or for that person to continue to support lies and attack anyone who tries to highlight the truth? Another way to put it is the intellectually lazy and uninformed actually do damage to society. They are led by the nose for the benefit of political and other forces. And that's why they are sometimes referred to as "useful idiots". At some point calling them out for what they are cannot be considered to be more obscene than the damage they cause society.

robomartin 1y ago

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casey2 1y ago

Why do you go on the internet at lie? Anybody can look up fast food employement rates in california and see that you are just bullshiting. California has more fast food jobs now than at any point in it's history. Mcdonalds has already recovered from it's fool's day blip. I just don't understand why Americans want a race to the bottom on their food/food service quality. Apparently at the expense of growth.

s1artibartfast 1y ago
>Why do you go on the internet at lie? Anybody can look up fast food employement rates in california and see that you are just bullshiting. genuinely looking for a Source? On BLS I see see California employment numbers are down. https://data.bls.gov/cew/apps/table_maker/v4/table_maker.htm#type=17&from=2023&to=2024&qtr=1&own=5&ind=722513&area=06000&supp=1 https://data.bls.gov/cew/apps/table_maker/v4/table_maker.htm...
robomartin 1y ago
> Why do you go on the internet at lie? Anybody can look up fast food employement rates in california and see that you are just bullshiting. Why do you post such a reply without making any effort whatsoever to check the references I provided and engaging in a modicum of critical thinking. I purposely provided left-leaning references just to be sure there was no room for anyone to claim the source might be biased. The SEIU and BLS are two such organization, and I provided reports from both of them. I apologize my being aggressive. I am just sick and tired of the ignorant, stupid culture we seem to have developed. Anyone --ANYONE-- who has run a non-trivial business fully understands how FORCING a massive increase in business inputs has consequences, which rarely are good. This is one such cases. Politicians sell a higher minimum wage to the ignorant masses as a solution to their problems. The ignorant masses vote for them. Minimum wage is artificially forced upwards. They loose their jobs, earn less money, costs of goods go up, they are replaced with automation, outsourced or replaced by illegal immigrants paid cash under the table (less than minimum wage, of course). We are in desperate need of education in this country. Our voters have become useful idiots.
- kragen 1y ago
  In case anyone else is looking for the references, they're in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43808719 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43808719, a comment that is currently unfortunately [dead], probably because it's rude. You have to log in and turn on "showdead" in your profile. The links are https://californiaglobe.com/fl/new-seiu-funded-report-admits-20-wage-law-caused-fast-food-job-losses/ https://californiaglobe.com/fl/new-seiu-funded-report-admits... and https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/qwllx1iv8q1ecudz6z59v/BRG_Impacts-of-20-Min-Wage-Report_2.18.25_FINAL.pdf?rlkey=zy6b96c3s5ngjeactf30hui77&e=4&st=guugtn2c&dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/qwllx1iv8q1ecudz6z59v/BRG_Imp....
  - robomartin 1y ago
    I often find it interesting to see what gets flagged and downvoted or characterized as rude on various platforms, including here on HN. Saying somethings is "ignorant" or "stupid" is deemed a negative, when, on the other side, what is being said is in a range between lies and outright dumb and uninformed. This is particularly egregious when it is accompanied by no obvious effort to investigate and understand before making a comment. It is fine to challenge anything anyone says, of course. The way you do it is, to, for example, ask a question: "I don't think I agree, what evidence can you provide?" or "Can you clarify your position?", etc. The Biden situation is a perfect example of this. Half the country was screaming about his mental decline and beyond obvious incapacity. How did that half of the country get treated? They were insulted and attacked from every angle. What was the truth? The president was senile and incapacitated, likely since almost his first days in office. So, what is more obscene and rude? To tell someone who is uninformed, ignorant and who refuses to look at reality that they are, in fact, uninformed and ignorant, or for that person to continue to support lies and attack anyone who tries to highlight the truth? Another way to put it is the intellectually lazy and uninformed actually do damage to society. They are led by the nose for the benefit of political and other forces. And that's why they are sometimes referred to as "useful idiots". At some point calling them out for what they are cannot be considered to be more obscene than the damage they cause society.