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Downvoted/flagged trolling. Of course people can think of a better right thing to do in this case.

ty6853 2y ago
I honestly cannot. There is almost nothing worse than losing your kids. It might be worse than death. The humane solution is to allow a deported parent to keep them.
- viraptor 2y ago
  Ok, let's try some empathy and humane thinking: you don't throw out either of them in that case.
  - ty6853 2y ago
    So basically create a huge incentive to drag very sick kids through the darien gap and cartel land with no real plan for foid and housing of their kids? If i did 1% of that someone would call cps to take my kids.
    - viraptor 2y ago
      The incentive already exists. But this case is about US citizen kids, not kids brought in. So concentrating on that: > The families, who had lived in the United States for years and had deep ties to their communities > Both families have possible immigration relief The current actions did not make sense and didn't make anything better or solve any problems.
      - ty6853 2y ago
        Valid points. The question is after a judge orders a deportation and the executive is insistent on carrying it out, what would you do with citizen kids after the deportation of their parents?
      - riehwvfbk 2y ago
        So you'd create extra incentive for having anchor babies in the US? At least the people doing this now have to wait until their anchors become adults and can petition for them.
  - Chris2048 2y ago
    Thereby establishing the president that breaking the law will go unpunished so long as you procreate. Doesn't feel very empathic, fair or humane to me, especially when the precedent kicks in.
riehwvfbk 2y ago
I know you mean well and want to save the world from trolls, but this is not a hypothetical. I have a friend who is in this exact situation (previous administration, don't get your hopes up for another story for your bandwagon). The parents had temporary asylum. They had kids in the US. Asylum expired and was not renewed. They've been fighting a court battle for several years now because there's an order to deport the parents and place the kids in foster care. They would prefer to stay in the US, but failing that they would like to leave with their children.
- viraptor 2y ago
  And people should have an option to do that. That's entirely different than getting kidnapped without any process.
  - riehwvfbk 2y ago
    Now imagine being a judge, and you are supposed to allow a US citizen child to be taken to a country that is hostile to the US. In the current media climate. And this is exactly the problem with these knee-jerk emotional reactions: reality is a lot more complicated.

I honestly cannot. There is almost nothing worse than losing your kids. It might be worse than death. The humane solution is to allow a deported parent to keep them.

viraptor 2y ago
Ok, let's try some empathy and humane thinking: you don't throw out either of them in that case.
- ty6853 2y ago
  So basically create a huge incentive to drag very sick kids through the darien gap and cartel land with no real plan for foid and housing of their kids? If i did 1% of that someone would call cps to take my kids.
  - viraptor 2y ago
    The incentive already exists. But this case is about US citizen kids, not kids brought in. So concentrating on that: > The families, who had lived in the United States for years and had deep ties to their communities > Both families have possible immigration relief The current actions did not make sense and didn't make anything better or solve any problems.
    - ty6853 2y ago
      Valid points. The question is after a judge orders a deportation and the executive is insistent on carrying it out, what would you do with citizen kids after the deportation of their parents?
    - riehwvfbk 2y ago
      So you'd create extra incentive for having anchor babies in the US? At least the people doing this now have to wait until their anchors become adults and can petition for them.
- Chris2048 2y ago
  Thereby establishing the president that breaking the law will go unpunished so long as you procreate. Doesn't feel very empathic, fair or humane to me, especially when the precedent kicks in.

riehwvfbk 2y ago

I know you mean well and want to save the world from trolls, but this is not a hypothetical. I have a friend who is in this exact situation (previous administration, don't get your hopes up for another story for your bandwagon). The parents had temporary asylum. They had kids in the US. Asylum expired and was not renewed. They've been fighting a court battle for several years now because there's an order to deport the parents and place the kids in foster care. They would prefer to stay in the US, but failing that they would like to leave with their children.

viraptor 2y ago
And people should have an option to do that. That's entirely different than getting kidnapped without any process.
- riehwvfbk 2y ago
  Now imagine being a judge, and you are supposed to allow a US citizen child to be taken to a country that is hostile to the US. In the current media climate. And this is exactly the problem with these knee-jerk emotional reactions: reality is a lot more complicated.