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Elon has proven to truly be the dumbest smart guy ever. He alienated Tesla’s core customers; tree hugging liberals, and anyone who cares about sustainability. T

Elon has proven to truly be the dumbest smart guy ever. He alienated Tesla’s core customers; tree hugging liberals, and anyone who cares about sustainability. The GOP nor their voters care and never will. I called this Tesla stock crash months ago; did not act on it though.

rco8786 1y ago
One interesting thing is that he seems completely unaware that he is the problem. Stepping back from DOGE to focus on Tesla again. He thinks that him getting closer to Tesla will help save the brand, when it's exactly his association with it that caused the damage in the first place. The best thing he could do for Tesla would be to step aside. > I called this Tesla stock crash months ago TSLA is currently up 5% MoM despite really, really horrible earnings and outlook. The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent sometimes.
- klntsky 1y ago
  I don't think stock prices matter as much to him (everybody knows there are lots of expectations baked in the price).
  - rco8786 1y ago
    Nor do I, I'm sure he's aware it's propped up on nothing but fumes and vibes. I was just commenting on OP wishing they had shorted TSLA months ago. Easy to say in hindsight, is all.
skellera 1y ago
I think less people care about it politically than you think. Most people I know who have Teslas stand by the product even through Elon’s dumb shit. I think people care more about their own convenience. There’s nothing else in our market that’s even comparable. People talk a lot of shit and it wasn’t great to start but FSD is on a different level now, especially on newer cars like the new Model Y. Having a car that mostly drives itself is the best purchase I’ve ever made. It doesn’t seem to be slowing down sales in Seattle. New Model Ys are everywhere here.
- gdudeman 1y ago
  This anecdote doesn’t match the data. It is definitely slowing demand. You can see it in the Q1 numbers and the discounts on vehicles. You can ask anyone who buys used EVs in Seattle. There is a glut of Tesla sellers and not many buyers. Like it or not, your car says a lot about you. People bought Teslas because they liked what they said and now they are avoiding them because they don’t like it.
- toomuchtodo 1y ago
  Tesla once again tells its own CEO Elon Musk to knock it off with the politics - https://electrek.co/2025/04/22/tesla-once-again-tells-ceo-elon-musk-to-knock-it-off-with-the-politics-nonsense/ https://electrek.co/2025/04/22/tesla-once-again-tells-ceo-el... - April 22nd, 2025 67% of Americans would not consider buying a Tesla, new poll says - https://electrek.co/2025/03/28/most-americans-would-not-consider-buying-tesla-new-poll/ https://electrek.co/2025/03/28/most-americans-would-not-cons... - March 28th, 2025 Tesla sales fall by 49% in Europe even as the electric vehicle market grows - https://apnews.com/article/tesla-sales-recall-trump-byd-b6f5da15be491d16e3020598e3ddf861 https://apnews.com/article/tesla-sales-recall-trump-byd-b6f5... - March 25, 2025 Tesla is done in Germany: 94% say they won’t buy a Tesla car - https://electrek.co/2025/03/14/tesla-is-done-in-germany-94-say-they-wont-buy-a-tesla-car/ https://electrek.co/2025/03/14/tesla-is-done-in-germany-94-s... - March 14th, 2025 Australian Tesla sales plummet as owners rush to distance themselves from Elon Musk -https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/mar/06/australian-tesla-sales-plummet-elon-musk https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/mar/06/australia... - March 6th, 2025 (own several Teslas, won't buy another)
- isoprophlex 1y ago
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gosub100 1y ago
The fact that so many "climate activists" and environmentalists turned on him confirms my suspicion that they didn't think so highly about the earth or climate change in the first place. They care about partisan politics and their tribe more than the planet.
- josv 1y ago
  Be wary of confirmation bias. I don’t find it unlikely at all that Tesla owners have sincere environmental goals that could be overshadowed by other concerns. Let’s afford each other the grace of being rational expected utility maximizers.
- zzzeek 1y ago
  He spent hundreds of millions to get Trump elected, so that now the EPA is gutted, the closing of coal plants has been halted, and federal lands are set to be drilled and mined into oblivion. This is what climate activists correctly opposed and continue to oppose in opposing Musk.
  - gosub100 1y ago
    He made cars that people actually like, that don't emit any CO2. But he doesn't signal from the right tribe, so everything he's done is worthless.
    - zzzeek 1y ago
      Sorry if you cure someone of cancer, then shoot them in the head, you lose credit for the first part
Animats 1y ago
He was smart. Then he started using drugs. Since then, he's made a lot of mistakes. It's pretty simple.

rco8786 1y ago

One interesting thing is that he seems completely unaware that he is the problem. Stepping back from DOGE to focus on Tesla again. He thinks that him getting closer to Tesla will help save the brand, when it's exactly his association with it that caused the damage in the first place. The best thing he could do for Tesla would be to step aside. > I called this Tesla stock crash months ago TSLA is currently up 5% MoM despite really, really horrible earnings and outlook. The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent sometimes.

klntsky 1y ago
I don't think stock prices matter as much to him (everybody knows there are lots of expectations baked in the price).
- rco8786 1y ago
  Nor do I, I'm sure he's aware it's propped up on nothing but fumes and vibes. I was just commenting on OP wishing they had shorted TSLA months ago. Easy to say in hindsight, is all.

skellera 1y ago

I think less people care about it politically than you think. Most people I know who have Teslas stand by the product even through Elon’s dumb shit. I think people care more about their own convenience. There’s nothing else in our market that’s even comparable. People talk a lot of shit and it wasn’t great to start but FSD is on a different level now, especially on newer cars like the new Model Y. Having a car that mostly drives itself is the best purchase I’ve ever made. It doesn’t seem to be slowing down sales in Seattle. New Model Ys are everywhere here.

gdudeman 1y ago
This anecdote doesn’t match the data. It is definitely slowing demand. You can see it in the Q1 numbers and the discounts on vehicles. You can ask anyone who buys used EVs in Seattle. There is a glut of Tesla sellers and not many buyers. Like it or not, your car says a lot about you. People bought Teslas because they liked what they said and now they are avoiding them because they don’t like it.
toomuchtodo 1y ago
Tesla once again tells its own CEO Elon Musk to knock it off with the politics - https://electrek.co/2025/04/22/tesla-once-again-tells-ceo-elon-musk-to-knock-it-off-with-the-politics-nonsense/ https://electrek.co/2025/04/22/tesla-once-again-tells-ceo-el... - April 22nd, 2025 67% of Americans would not consider buying a Tesla, new poll says - https://electrek.co/2025/03/28/most-americans-would-not-consider-buying-tesla-new-poll/ https://electrek.co/2025/03/28/most-americans-would-not-cons... - March 28th, 2025 Tesla sales fall by 49% in Europe even as the electric vehicle market grows - https://apnews.com/article/tesla-sales-recall-trump-byd-b6f5da15be491d16e3020598e3ddf861 https://apnews.com/article/tesla-sales-recall-trump-byd-b6f5... - March 25, 2025 Tesla is done in Germany: 94% say they won’t buy a Tesla car - https://electrek.co/2025/03/14/tesla-is-done-in-germany-94-say-they-wont-buy-a-tesla-car/ https://electrek.co/2025/03/14/tesla-is-done-in-germany-94-s... - March 14th, 2025 Australian Tesla sales plummet as owners rush to distance themselves from Elon Musk -https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/mar/06/australian-tesla-sales-plummet-elon-musk https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/mar/06/australia... - March 6th, 2025 (own several Teslas, won't buy another)
isoprophlex 1y ago
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gosub100 1y ago

The fact that so many "climate activists" and environmentalists turned on him confirms my suspicion that they didn't think so highly about the earth or climate change in the first place. They care about partisan politics and their tribe more than the planet.

josv 1y ago
Be wary of confirmation bias. I don’t find it unlikely at all that Tesla owners have sincere environmental goals that could be overshadowed by other concerns. Let’s afford each other the grace of being rational expected utility maximizers.
zzzeek 1y ago
He spent hundreds of millions to get Trump elected, so that now the EPA is gutted, the closing of coal plants has been halted, and federal lands are set to be drilled and mined into oblivion. This is what climate activists correctly opposed and continue to oppose in opposing Musk.
- gosub100 1y ago
  He made cars that people actually like, that don't emit any CO2. But he doesn't signal from the right tribe, so everything he's done is worthless.
  - zzzeek 1y ago
    Sorry if you cure someone of cancer, then shoot them in the head, you lose credit for the first part

Animats 1y ago

He was smart. Then he started using drugs. Since then, he's made a lot of mistakes. It's pretty simple.