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Well, I'm also fair certain that there are a lot of foreign intelligence services which, having infiltrated through DOGE, are currently leaving digital "gifts"

Well, I'm also fair certain that there are a lot of foreign intelligence services which, having infiltrated through DOGE, are currently leaving digital "gifts" throughout all of our systems. So it's also about spying. Not blaming those foreign agencies. I'd do the same thing if the shoe was on the other foot. But congrats. Get your laughs in now. The US will be back. We'll have our day. Just takes time, patience and studied observation. We have a long memory.

stevenwoo 2y ago
Considering how often our presidential elections keep selecting the candidates from the party that implodes the economy for tax cuts for the rich, our memory is not long enough.
- pstuart 2y ago
  Presidential elections are won on emotions, not logic. And the emotions in question are usually negative. This is why the Culture War exists -- to stir up anger, hate, and fear and leverage that to sway voters.
  - no_wizard 2y ago
    Not to mention, trade wars are class wars. There is a reason alot of incredibly wealthy people - by any standard - support the tariffs. Its a way to assert more control over the economy so that when the tariffs come down - and they will come down - they've already primed themselves by taking more control of goods or having done so while the tariffs are still active. Its a means of control. I expect a wave of corporate consolidation happening soon across most sectors that will be driven by this outlook
    - pstuart 2y ago
      Absolutely agree. They want to replace income taxes with tariffs, because rich people. The last tax cut promised to create jobs but (surprised pikachu face) instead went to stock buybacks.
blitzar 2y ago
The Rest of the World are back. You have had your day. Just takes time, patience, studied observation and after all, my house has been standing longer than your country has existed. We have a long memory.
- bilbo0s 2y ago
  And you should have a long memory. That's how a nation looks after its own interests. As I implied in my original comment, I applaud and admire that about these foreign agencies. Also, many nations do have houses older than the US. My compliments to your ancient engineers. Time will tell how long ours will last. I would caution however that, unless I miss my guess, I suspect we both know ours will outlast the surrogates currently being used to leave digital gifts in our systems.

stevenwoo 2y ago

Considering how often our presidential elections keep selecting the candidates from the party that implodes the economy for tax cuts for the rich, our memory is not long enough.

pstuart 2y ago
Presidential elections are won on emotions, not logic. And the emotions in question are usually negative. This is why the Culture War exists -- to stir up anger, hate, and fear and leverage that to sway voters.
- no_wizard 2y ago
  Not to mention, trade wars are class wars. There is a reason alot of incredibly wealthy people - by any standard - support the tariffs. Its a way to assert more control over the economy so that when the tariffs come down - and they will come down - they've already primed themselves by taking more control of goods or having done so while the tariffs are still active. Its a means of control. I expect a wave of corporate consolidation happening soon across most sectors that will be driven by this outlook
  - pstuart 2y ago
    Absolutely agree. They want to replace income taxes with tariffs, because rich people. The last tax cut promised to create jobs but (surprised pikachu face) instead went to stock buybacks.

blitzar 2y ago

The Rest of the World are back. You have had your day. Just takes time, patience, studied observation and after all, my house has been standing longer than your country has existed. We have a long memory.

bilbo0s 2y ago
And you should have a long memory. That's how a nation looks after its own interests. As I implied in my original comment, I applaud and admire that about these foreign agencies. Also, many nations do have houses older than the US. My compliments to your ancient engineers. Time will tell how long ours will last. I would caution however that, unless I miss my guess, I suspect we both know ours will outlast the surrogates currently being used to leave digital gifts in our systems.